Talk:New Weird America
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Does New Weird America music have to come from the US? I believe Coco Rosie are French. Dantams 21:43, 6 September 2005 (UTC) I think CocoRosie should be deleted. it is new weird *America* right?
They wish (literally). They're from the Western US, somewhere. --electric counterpoint 23:34, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, at least one of their albums was recorded in france, but they are american.
coco rosie were born in iowa and hawaii, so says the touch and go site. and though i love both vashti bunyan and frog eyes, i'm not sure if they belong on this list. with bunyan i can see how she could be "associated" with these other artists ("re-discovery" by banhart, collabs with him and animal collective, championed by every hipster under the golden sun), but she is british and hardly "new". she was not so much "influenced" by the 60's psyche and folk scenes as she was an understated part of it. and frog eyes, they are canadian and that would be a stretch i think to classify them with this group. they do a lot of things, including the primarily acoustic 'ego scriptor', but acoustic does not equal folk. thoughts? personally i think this term is totally dumb, but that's neither here nor there. Swc 00:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
CocoRosie currently live in Brooklyn, as stated in the Wikipedia article on them.
Even so, there are several bands/artists not from America: Frog Eyes, Vashti Bunyan, etc. Is being American a requisite?
- imo yes, otherwise this article would be half finnish —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 15:51, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Artwork
Anyone know anything about art? All of the artwork for a lot of these artists seems like a certain style of affected folk art- I don't know much else beyond that, but there seems to be certain aesthetics that a lot of the album art adheres to (I'm thinking specifically of the art on Animal Collective, Joanna Newsom, Devendra, Sufjan albums). Any thoughts?
- arts and crafts, pre-raphaelite, victoriana, colorforms
[edit] Tunng
I've seen people classify this group as "New Weird America", though they're more so Folktronica. Any opinions? SamWhite 22:09, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Youtube
I'm adding a link to a youtube group i just started to become a directory of new weird america videos. Is this ok w/ everyone, I'm a learning Wikipedian.
[edit] Immanent?
I don't understand the use of this word in this article. Immanent means existing inherently within the object in question.
- word doesnt currently occur in article but possibly it meant imminent —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 15:37, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Elephant 6
I don't think the article needs the extensive note on Elephant 6. There are obviously numerous movements which preceded this one, which all shared similar ethos and aesthetics, but I think they would be better off in a See also section. Cnwb 06:35, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cat Power
I threw her in there, what do you all think? Keremm May 11 2006
[edit] Deletion
I returned Deek Hoi to the list, after he was deleted with no explanation by an anonymous user. Please see my discussion on the Psych Folk page. Thanks! Martillie 17 May 2006
I'm removing Tilly and the Wall, because well, they aren't New Weird America and I've never heard them described as so. Major Organ 00:29, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
I'd say that Andrew Bird should be deleted. I have never heard of him classified in this way and do not feel he fits the bill. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.248.131 (talk) 03:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] influences
OK from what I can tell calling this genre 'loose' is putting it in strong terms, so maybe the whole question of influences is a moot point. But would it be fair to mention folks such as Captain Beefheart, Velvet Underground, and Tom Waits as at least pointing these artists in the right direction (if only by their refusal to follow directions)? --Andymussell 02:27, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Castanets
Instead of linking to a wiki about Raymond Raposa's phenomenal Castanets, this wiki's link directs readers to an entry about the musical instrument of the same name. Castanets deserve a wiki.
[edit] White Magic
Shouldn't White Magic be in one of the list of bands? Correct me if i'm wrong but they are new weird America.
[edit] Antony and The Johnsons
Why is Antony in a category that is specific to American musicians? He is British, and though may play with some of the other musicians in this list I don't see him as a part of this movement. Please note that Antony was in the documentary Eternal Children. He acknowledged his association with acclaimed acts like Coco Rosie and Devendra Banhart. He also resides in New York and feel that despite Antony being from another generation he has greatly influenced this movement through his support and praise of new weird america colleagues.
I hope that is enough to justify his addition to the list. am sure the person who added him was familiar with the documentary. It is available on you tube in 4 parts. Feel free to check it out. Devendra comes across as a charlatan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trainwreckmurphy (talk • contribs) 07:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Winter Flowers
There is finally (again - mine got deleted and I'm a fairly ignorant wikipedian, so I don't know why)a Winter Flowers article, but the listing in this article doesn't link to it...
Hm. now Winter Flowers aren't even listed anymore. I guess it's for the best, as they don't really fit in here. But neither do Ariel Pink nor Lavender Diamond.
[edit] red links
there are way too many red links in the artist list. make pages or delink plzzz
[edit] Associated bands and artists
I gave this list a long-overdue pruning. If the redlinked bands and musicians are notable enough to be on the list, they should have articles, even if, at least to start, they are only stubs. These are the names I removed:
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In addition, all of the musicians who remain need to have references indicating that the label is justified. In general, the entire article needs more references. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 19:08, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
