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I am Wally Davies of South Australia. Several years ago I learned of a mysterious canine extant in thick Mallee Eucalypt scrub extending from Victoria into South Australia, a distance of about 150 kms. and 100 N-S. They were there when that country was opened for selection circa 1880. I learned of many unusual features about this canine and it's identity was unknown to Depts concerned. The dogs are notorious sheep killers and have beeen trapped from the beginning of settlement. Mid 2006 I obtained skulls and identified the dog as the New Guinea Singing dog. Its range extends through the Big Desert Wilderness and it has never extended beyond these boundaries, staying in the thick cover and emerging only on hunting forays. The skull bears no resemblance to dingo. In the Gnarkat Conservation Park in South Australia the dogs are favoured with partial protection. Hopefully in 2008 I could obtain skuls for supply at a nominal cost for postage. In time I will have a section on my website devoted to Australian NGSD. Pleaase visit my website http:/www.geocities.com/australiandesertcats This basically concerns the big feline predator, found in Australia which is in reality a giant house cat, the size of a puma and adapted to Australian conditions. Wally Davies (E-Mail removed for security purposes)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.168.192.240 (talk • contribs) 23:01, 9 October 2007


This is a species?? *confused* --e. 17:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

  • It is currently disputed rather NGSDs are a subspecies of the wolf, like the domestic dog and Dingo, or if they are different enough to be their own species. It has been found that NGSDs have certain differences between other canids, and action is now being taken to list the breed as it's own species instead of a subspecies, and list it as endangered, as this will help protect NGSDs from becoming extinct, with their numbers in the hundreds in captivity, and possibly none left in the wild. Vortex 18:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

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R. Wayne, et al. in 1992 reported on base of mitochondrial DNA, state unique features of genome NGSD, various compared with 33 dog breeds also studied. !---Can someone who knows what the last sentence is trying to say clean up the grammar--- Earlier, in 1976 V Simonses published results of his study on New Guinea Singing Dog blood enzymes, in which two totally new proteins (Verify source|date=April 2008), different from jackals, wolves and other canids were found.

Since 1987 Dr. I. Lehr Brisbin, a senior ecologist, has been studying NGSD DNA and behavior. In 1996 Dr. Brisbin, in collaboration with Mr. Will Gergits of Therion Corporation, Troy, New York found contained genetic markers that are also present in dingo, but not found in common grey wolf and the domestic dog breeds in study. Dr. Brisbin and Janice Koler-Matznick are currently preparing a NGSD ethogram that describes several behaviors unique to this wild dog.

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I know there are studies being done, including genetic testing, on these dogs, but as someone who is only mildly interested I'm not going to pay the large fees required to look at articles in quality peer reviewed scientific journals -- if I could even find them in the first place. Someone who has real scientific resources (not just hobbyist dog magazines and breed books) needs to update this article. It's an interesting topic.--Hafwyn (talk) 04:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)