Talk:New Flamenco
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Anyone know what happened here? Isn't new flamenco a music genre? This article shows something about a tv show on Nickelodeon.
This is an outrage.! To say Alejandro Sanz is related in anyway to New Flamenco is opposite to accurate! Only musicians who stick to the flamenco tradition of improvisation, placing sound first and virtuosism while mixing it should be included here! Otherwise you should regard Gypsie Kings as New Flamenco
This section lacks BIGTIME!!! Time to expand!
I disagree with the article entirely. It gives the uninformed reader a very false impression, while offending readers whom are familiar with flamenco music. From the "compas" perspective of flamenco, only Gerardo Nuñez, Diego El Cigala comply. Ketama and most of the other musicians mentioned should be more correctly called "flamenco pop".
I am changing the "New Flamenco" section as follows. I am deleting the introductory sentence "The group Ketama has a salsa derived New Flamenco style and has become one of the most important New Flamenco groups from Spain.", and replacing it with an introduction to a concept which does slightly more justice to the subject "new flamenco".
I am deliting the sentence "Saxophonist Jorge Pardo, pianist Chano Dominguez and guitarist Gerardo Nuñez are all Jazz inspired New Flamenco musicians, and can be called acknowledged flamenceros." Because I am not sure if the mentioned musicians are supposed to be jazz inspired flamenco musicians, or flamenco inspired jazz musicians, or both. The term "flamenceros" does not exist. It is simply "flamenco".
I am deleting Diego El Cigala from the following sentence, and replacing the term "fused flamenco" with the term "fused latino" because using the word "flamenco" to describe anything of such nature is misleading.
"More multi-faceted artists, such as singers Pata Negra, Alejandro Sanz, Diego El Cigala, Martirio and guitarists Lyloly, Jesse Cook, Ottmar Liebert, Young & Rollins, and Luis Villegas have fused flamenco with such diverse styles as latin jazz, salsa, rock, pop, blues and son."
--PeterZ 05:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I thought the prefered term was "Flamenco Nuevo". Shouldn't that be the title? I'm not aware of this being confused with "latino" or "mariachi music". Is there any evidence to back up this statement? The article seems completely out to lunch to me. Flamenco Nuevo is the newest style of Flamenco music (Gypsies/Andalusia). Its foundation is traditional Spanish Flamenco. Latino and Mariachi are both American styles with completely different instrumentation. I don't know how anyone in their right mind could confuse them. The primary outside influences are Fusion Jazz and Traditional North African Music. Am I wrong?
Steve Lowther 09:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
There seem to *far and few in between* visitors to this discussion, likely in part due to the title, which should be changed to "flamenco nuevo". It should also be linked to the main flamenco article. I removed a whole lot of ideas that seemed not related to the focus of this article and added many links at the bottom. This I believe is a step in the right direction. Thanks
