Talk:New Covenant Theology

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Contents 1 Merge suggestion 2 Summary Change 3 POV 4 comment re "Recent History" section 5 Add External Link to Article on New Covenant Theology 6 William Gadsby's Catechism 7 Distinctives

[edit] Merge suggestion

I found this article after I found the other article New Covenant (theology). This article is more recent, while the other article is just a stub. But the other does have content that is not included here. I suggest merging the two. RelHistBuff 10:51, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

It appears a disambiguation page is needed instead so I remove the suggestion. RelHistBuff 10:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

A merge is not appropriate. The "New Testament (theological)" article is explaining the basic term (NT) as it is used in referring to the biblical concept and the notation for the latter segment of the Bible contra the Old Testament. New Covenant Theology is a technical term specifically made as a distinction from the Covenant Theology held in Reformed circles. Jim Ellis 19:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Summary Change

I've changed the 'Baptist' in the summary text to 'Reformed', since most Baptist churches I know are either 'agnostic' or somewhat loosely dispensational. Washi 17:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I changed it back. It is specifically found among Calvinistic Baptists and is opposed to "Reformed" Baptists, who hold to Covenant Theology as well as the "dispensational" Baptists. Jim Ellis 19:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV

"a more biblical middle ground" shouldn't be here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.58.108.216 (talk) 05:01, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

POV still present. Cariactures the covenant theology view - O. Palmer Robertson, etc. would not say that Israel and the church are the same in everything. There is developmental change as well as continuity - there has to be change or else covenant theology would go against the shadows/fulfillment typology framework of Hebrews. The whole move to Biblical theology in Reformed circles shows that we recognize discontinuities. Evan Donovan 04:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

the section we are discussion doesn't even do what it says on the tin. Reading it over again the heading says "Theological background", but the text underneath is more of a summary, which manages to man-handle quite a few different positions and concepts anyway. I did a lot of fleshing out of the article last year, because there wasn't much of it, but to be honest I don't think I did a very good job and the page needs a lot of work doing to it. The page could also be organised better. Does anyone have any suggestions? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Petemyers (talk • contribs) 21:52, 28 April 2007 (UTC).

sorry for not signing my last post! Petemyers 21:53, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] comment re "Recent History" section

Based on my reading, it seems to me that most of the distinctives of NC theology were articulated in the 1500's by Anabaptists. This fact is sometimes overlooked, perhaps because most modern NC thinkers are Calvinistic and the Anabaptists of course weren't.

Two of the sources I'm thinking of are by Leonard Verduin: The Reformers and Their Stepchildren and Anatomy of a Hybrid.

--Betterpromises 16:21, 12 February 2007 (UTC)Chris Scarborough.

The highlight of confessional truth is the 1646 First London Confession. These people did not consider themselves protestants, believed in predestination as some anabaptists certainly did before them, and separated themselves from all form of papistry, from law preaching and eternal generation that they considered false doctrine. I stand with these as being the only definitive antidote to Presbyterianism, and I view the 1689 confession as a falling away from the 1646 confession. If you read the writings of these 1646 Baptists, you would agree that they would consider 1689 as a falling away. bgamall

I updated the link from Geoff Volker's name to point to http://ids.org/ids/contact.html instead of http://www.ids.org/ids/about.html. The previous URL is a broken link. I made this change a few weeks ago; however, it was undone. If the new URL is inappropriate for any reason, I would suggest removing the link completely rather than using the old, broken URL. --Phylae 06:55, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Add External Link to Article on New Covenant Theology

Hi, Please consider adding an external link to my 58 page article on New Covenant Theology. Thank you. http://www.jesussaidfollowme.org/new-covenant-theology.pdf goodnews1

[edit] William Gadsby's Catechism

As I was gathering some confessions together, I found William Gadsby's Catechism and based on its heavy NCT leaning, perhaps it should be linked on the Wiki? (http://www.the-faith.org.uk/gadsby.html) Totwell (talk) 06:34, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Distinctives

I don't know why someone has added the view of the cross as a New Covenant Theology distinctive. The title states that these distinctives are distinctives within "evangelical" theology. Now, maybe that shouldn't be the point of reference, but both Dispensationalism and Covenant Theology, as the other major systems, both agree with this point on the cross. As such, it makes no sense to put this as a distinctive here. It's not a distinctive of New Covenant Theology.86.137.119.39 (talk) 12:36, 30 March 2008 (UTC)