Talk:Neil Buchanan

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[edit] Vandalism

Does anyone know why this article seems to get vandalised on a fairly regular basis? To me it seems a strange article to target. --Jameboy 22:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Art Attack.jpg

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[edit] Neil Buchanan is not dead

I know it's not the font of all knowledge but is there any way of verifying if the facebook group "R.I.P Neil" has ANY basis in fact?

It's proposterous to state that he is dead (particularly considering there isn't one Google result for his death, obituary, &c.) Until a source is available, this is going to be deleted --Luke w (talk) 22:57, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

isnt this guy dead now? shouldnt someone put THAT in? seems kinda important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.91.204.86 (talk) 23:42, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

No, he's not dead. Sally Anne (talk) 00:54, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

He isn't dead, just do a google search. I also searched on some newspapers websites and there is nothing. The man is still alive! AustralAlien (talk) 14:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC) He might not be dead, but Paul is. --99.246.165.47 (talk) 01:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Backing Vocalist

Apart from the lack of a source, does 'Desrae' actually mean 'Des'ree'?Lukeitfc (talk) 13:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Death Rumour

I think the sources used for dispelling the rumour aren't particularity trust worthy, the source is trusting someones forum post saying they received a reply back from ITV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.112.129 (talk) 01:05, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I've added a short bit on the whole death thing, just to clarify for people - as this rumour seems to have got out of hand. Hope everyone agrees :) Dvmedis (talk) 15:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

The Facebook group has now got more than 6500 members. Thought that detail was worth updating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.206.244 (talk) 22:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Forum posts are considered original research by wikipedia have added this information to section re: WP:SPS Matt Zero (talk) 16:33, 5 April 2008 (UTC) The matter of whether Neil is dead remains open, until more verifiable sources can be found disputing or confirming his death. The fact that facebook has reported his death is original research, as stated aboveWP:AVOID.

Heat magazine confirming death is a hoax

Furthermore, the inclusion of 'facebook' citations is against wiki guidelines as it is inaccessible to a large number of users. If even a million people are in such a group declaring Neil dead, this does not make the hoax anymore accessible to non-facebook users. Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided; parts 2, 6, 10, 13 and 16. On top of this, the news article created by Heat was in response to a hoax. Neil is alive, editing wikipedia to verify this is counter productive as people are presumed alive until proven otherwise, the inclusion of the hoax information only highlights hoaxers ability to ridicule logical thought. Hoax section wiki guidelines Wikipedia:Don't create hoaxes#Hoaxes vs. articles about hoaxes

Like everything else, hoaxes must be notable to be covered in Wikipedia – for example, a hoax may have received sustained media attention, been believed by thousands of people including academics, or been believed for many years. Wikipedia is not for things made up one day."

Matt Zero (talk) 00:31, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

In response to that, I knew nothing about the Facebook group, I heard about his death when it was read out on the news on a reputable radio station, they said he had died of Colon Cancer. The hoax was obviously big enough for the Radio Station to believe and so I believed it and I'm guessing anyone else who heard the broadcast believed it too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.8.9.240 (talk) 06:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

NEIL IS ALIVE. I E Mailed ITV to ask about these rumours and I got this response.

Thank you for your e-mail.


There is no truth in the rumours. We are pleased to assure you that Neil is definitely not dead.


Yours sincerely


DUTY OFFICER - JT —Preceding unsigned comment added by chriskart (talk) 17:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Number of Children

The introduction says "He has two children, a daughter named Molly and a son named Freddie." However, the musical section ends with "He lives in Surrey with his wife and four children". According to the reference it's two, so i'll edit out the other one.

According to the aforementioned Heat article, Buchanan has three children. This is just as bizarre as his rumoured death. Jared Preston (talk) 11:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of death rumuors

Although false, the rumours are themselves notable. Any chance of inserting them back into the article? Francium12 (talk) 23:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it's notable enough to justify a whole section. Failing that, I don't see where it could go. 82.13.151.148 (talk) 00:39, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
I can see only one article on the rumours from Google News, and that is a short article from a magazine. Its not enough to satisfy general notability guidelines, and forum postings are not largely acceptable for sources. If the BBC/ITN/Sky/major newspaper were to comment on the rumours, maybe then it could be worthy of inclusion. --tgheretford (talk) 10:08, 26 April 2008 (UTC)