Talk:Nebbiolo

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Contents 1 Merge with Italian wine 2 Wines using the Nebbiolo grape 3 Ethimology 4 Article title 5 Nebbiolo wine 6 This page needs work

[edit] Merge with Italian wine

Smokey Russell wants to merge this article with Italian wine. I do not agree. I will be brave and remove the merge request in one weeks time unless Smokey Russell argues why or any one else supports him.

I do not think it should be merged since I can not find any other grape article that is merged with its principle wine region and I think that both italian wine and the Nebbiolo grape deserves its own article even though both are a bit short for now. Stefan 13:09, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I am not in favor of merging the entire article, but merely the contents. I agree, both articles are in need of support. It would be nice if the varietal-happy folks would help beef up the regional articles. Smokey Russell 13:01, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

A better idea might be to create a pan-galactic liquids article which could include beverages, oceans, the circulation of the blood, crop spraying… Seriously, I can see absolutely no harm in summarizing information from this article and including it in Italian wine, together with a pointer here—in fact I would expect any editor to do just that kind of thing all the time. But let us maintain this as a separate article! Ian Spackman 13:32, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wines using the Nebbiolo grape

Although there is oddly no article on Nebbiolo in the Italian wikipedia, there is a long list of wines employing it at it:Categoria:Vini_DOC_e_DOCG_prodotti_con_uva_Nebbiolo. It would probably be worthwhile to mention some of these here. I am no expert but perhaps it: Gattinera as an apparently highly prized example which is not from the Langhe and it:Colline Novaresi Nebbiolo o Spanna as a reminder that the grape is sometimes called Spanna? Ian Spackman 13:32, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the article is a bit clumsy as per territorial distribution. It seems to be taken from a marketing leaflet of some kind, maybe from a wine seller. I'll try make it better in the future. Spanna is not a grape, but a place, from which an high priced nebieul-based wine bearing the same name is made. Most of the mountain wine is actually made from Nebieul grapes, because it is more apt to the climate and the wine can be aged (stored) longer. --Bèrto 'd Sèra 03:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ethimology

I would advise you guys not to take too seriously what enologists say about ethimology. The italian language first appeared in Piedmont only 150 years ago, so one can hardly image it sitting at the roots of any local brand name. Same as per the "Noble" derivation. While piedmontese and italian words for "fog" are definitely similar i sound, one can hardly imagine the word "Nòbil" (that also was rarely in use) to sit at the roots of "Nebieul". I also cleaned up a bit the pic and colour-balanced it. Sometimes in the future I'll translate the basic tech parts of the text from the pms article --Bèrto 'd Sèra 03:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article title

Any objections to our moving this to Nebbiolo, which is how the grape is best known in the English language? —Ian Spackman 13:28, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nebbiolo wine

Is there any wine called by the name "Nebbiolo" or do all the wines produced from this grape have a different name. Badagnani 17:08, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely there are wines produced that have the varietal name of Nebbiolo. Prominent Italian producers that spring immediately to mind are Renato Ratti[1], Gaja[2] and Pio Cesare[3]. California producers who produce wines labeled Nebbiolo are Bonny Doon[4] and Cosentino[5]. I am sure there are more, but these are the ones that spring to mind without doing a search. If you would like to have more give me time and I will find them. Dessilani[6] is a major producer in Piedmont that in the past produced a wine under the name Spanna, which is simply the Piedmontese name for the grape. However, the website seems to indicate it will now be labeled Nebbiolo. There are more producers who do this however I can't name them off the top of my head. Ee60640 07:05, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This page needs work

Reading this page it seems there are a number of odd syntax errors and the entire page seems to need some polishing. I will work on this as I am able and would welcome help from anyone who would like to pitch in. We should use the talk page to work out any consensus regarding the description of this grape. Ee60640 07:05, 9 June 2007 (UTC)