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[edit] Designated hitter
The article states that without the designated hitter rule ". . . the role of the manager is more important in terms of actual play". How is this so? -- Prometheus7Unbound 01:23, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Because he has to make critical decisions about whether to leave a pitcher in or put in a pinch-hitter for him in late innings of a close game. In the AL they have no such problem. They leave a pitcher in as long as he's effective, because he doesn't bat. Wahkeenah 03:54, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] St. Louis
The St. Louis Cardinals page indicates that the current Cardinals team evolved from the brown stockings, contradicting what this article says about only the Braves and the Cubs being modern equivalents. Which is right? --jcarkeys 02:10, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
It was a different team. The early National League team folded. The Brown Stockings or Browns of the AA were a new team in 1882. However, if you could find some evidence that it was the same organization, which was merely inactive for a few years, that would be worth noting. But I don't think so. All the literature I've seen indicates the current Cardinals date their beginnings from the 1882 club. Wahkeenah 03:52, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Philadelphia and New York
The article currently states that Philadelphia and New York were new franchises in 1883. However, I have read some other sources that indicate they were indeed transferred from older cities. The Worcester team (formed in 1880), relocated to Philadelphia, and Troy (formed 1879) moved to New York. Cincinnati, however, is the same team that it was in 1876. They were booted from the NL in 1880, spent one year playing independently, then joined the AA in 1882. The same team then transferred to the NL in 1890, along with the Brooklyn entry from 1884. David Nemec and his book The Beer and Whiskey League help shed some light on this area concerning the AA. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Baseball247 (talk • contribs) 00:21, 15 December 2006 (UTC).
More on this: The Phillies' own history states: "The original Phillies began when the Worcester Ruby Legs were disbanded and the franchise was moved by the National League to Philadelphia." Additional sources note that once the Worcester team was disbanded, the Philadelphia team (Quakers) was organised and that there was no connection between the teams, just a case of the League replacing one franchise spot with another. That indicates the team didn't relocate, but that a new one rose to fill the space left by the disbanded one.
This would make the article's sentence: "Since the NL's formation, the Cubs are the only team to play continously in the same city" inaccurate, as the Phillies have certainly been in Philadelphia continuously since 1883.
The Reds have been in Cincinnati even longer, just not continuously in the National League. Nevertheless they have also been in the same city since the formation of the NL, so technically the sentence is inaccurate on two fronts.
