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Contents 1 Comments 2 Freud & Narcissism 3 hmm... 4 A hotty? 5 Word Origins 6 Echo 7 so where's the story? 8 Possible Vandalsim? 9 Cat in the Adage 10 Style

[edit] Comments

The first myth presented sounds suspiciously like the story of Psyche and Eros. Is someone here confusing them or was there really the confusion in Greece, too?--BlackGriffen

I agree, and I've never heard any indication of confusion from any other source. Here's a link to the Psyche Eros myth:

http://www.loggia.com/myth/psyche.html

and here's one to Narcissus:

http://www.loggia.com/myth/echo.html These seem to be consistent over all of the web sites I've checked. As "source material", the legend of Psyche and Eros is present inside Apuleius' The Golden Ass. -BD

I moved the legend over to Psyche -firepink

The flower paragraph? doesnt that belong on the Narcissus page rather that Narcissus (mythology)?

Jwestbrook 19:39, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Personally, I'm not sure the move is needed, but Stevertigo brought it to Requested Moves, so I figured it should be talked about here. There's bad links in Whatlinkshere from both of them (here and here), but Narcissus (disambiguation) makes a good case for moving both into their disambiguated versions, and making that the Narcissus page. What do other people think? -- nae'blis _(talk) 04:58, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I concur, and will do so promptly. —Nightstallion (?) 12:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Freud & Narcissism

It seems fairly odd to me that there is no mention of narcissism in the context of freudian theory in this article. Its a major psychoanalytic theory that has influenced contemporary thinking for the last century. Would anyone like to have a go at adding this? --81.157.78.181 04:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] hmm...

This, a more archaic version than the one related by Ovid in his Metamorphoses, is a moral tale in which the proud and unfeeling Narcissus is punished by the gods for having spurned all his male suitors.

In this story, Ameinias, a young man, loved Narcissus but was scorned. To tell Ameinias off, Narcissus gave him a sword as a present. Ameinias used the sword to kill himself on Narcissus' doorstep and prayed to Nemesis that Narcissus would one day know the pain of unrequited love.

Are these two sentences meant to promote homosexuality? Because I find them rather disturbing. i got scammed 00:24, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Read up on Ancient Greece; they had rather different views on the subject. Personally I find it rather disturbing that you are so easily disturbed. Someone removed that part of the article, but I don't see why, so I put it back in, with additional sources. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Berry2K (talk • contribs) 23:07, 16 January 2007 (UTC).

" these two sentences meant to promote homosexuality?" Man, this is paranoia.

The original comment about promoting homosexuality should be given a page of its own, so that in the future people can look at it and marvel over how they ever evolved from such a shallow gene puddle. In fact contrasting that with the ancient Greek myths will leave them wondering about evolution full stop! Nina61.95.116.45 (talk) 14:23, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A hotty?

In the "Ovid's Version" section, right after it says "As a result, Narcissus" the words "is a hotty" appear in the article. When I tried to edit that out, the phrase did not show up in the editor. It's still there after refreshing the page. What gives? 68.156.227.159 18:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Word Origins

The statement about the origin of the word "narcotic" is not precisely accurate. The relation is only indirect at best. The exact origin of "narcotic" is based on the english use of the root "narc-" which means pertaining to sleep. Therefore "narcotic" is simply a drug that induces sleep. This is also where we get "narcolepsy" from. Now it may be that we got "narc-" from the same greek word, in which case the statement is not necessarily incorrect - so I didn't remove it - but I just thought I'd point this out anyway. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.243.73.47 (talk) 04:34, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Echo

Shouldn't anything about the myth with Echo be included here. This is thought to be the original version. Sodaplayer ^{talk contrib ^_^} 04:43, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] so where's the story?

The paragraphs on this page refer to the story, but none of them tell the story. It's brief enough, someone get it. (I'm at work now, can't.) Thnidu 21:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible Vandalsim?

{{helpme}} Somebody removed the entire Archaic Version section. Vandalism? They didn't leave any notices or anything, and didn't ask in talk section, so that's what it looks like, but... seems like it's not destructive enough to be vandalism. Second opinions? Eriryoutan (talk) 01:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

If someone's removed a section without giving reasons or entering into discussion, then you have every right to restore it. If they had a valid (non-vandalistic) reason, then they can explain here after you restore. See WP:BRD. Algebraist 02:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cat in the Adage

I wonder if theres an connection between the Cat in the Adage who ate fish but wouldn't get his paws wet and so starved and Narcissus here who didn't want to disrupt looking at himself in water

[edit] Style

The part about Echo (mythology) was written horribly improper, the version in the Echo article is much more appropriate, so I'm copying it over. I take it, by the process of elimination unless its a fourth made up one that Echo comes from Ovid's Metamorphis? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 12:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)