Talk:Name-dropping

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Is it really necessary to have this entire paragraph based on hip-hop? It strikes me that just about every social group involves a certain level of name-dropping, whether or not they're featured on MTV.

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[edit] Pros and cons of names-dropping

If Wikipedia is to endorse its policy of NPOV, surely this artilce should consider pros as well as cons of names-dropping. It is true that names-dropping is often seen as something negative, but surely a case could be made that it makes conversation more interesting. ACEO 18:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

There is a difference between name-dropping, citing references and 'conversationalizing'. It is one thing to say, "Did you see Jimi Hendrix's Improv at Woodstock?", another to say, "Improvisation, such as the Hendrix performance at Woodstock, ..." and quite another to say, "Yeah, me and Jimi partied after Woodstock." Perhaps this article could/should be joined with the one mentioned below ("why it's OK to name-drop"). 76.2.230.187 (talk) 06:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
If it's done in an interesting, informative, or sincere way, one could argue that it's no longer merely name-dropping, it's just good conversational skills. The linked article about "why it's OK to name-drop" has some good examples of artful name-dropping, and how one can get the positive effects of conversationally associating yourself with Important Persons without getting stigmatized as a name-dropper. Silarius 16:13, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

It is intersesting to note that many of those who are accused of "Name Dropping" are highly skilled in the art of conversation and are highly socially mobile as opposed to the accusers who are not and have difficulty in social mobility and therefore they see it as a form of social jousting or one upmanship of the name dropper.

Really? Who is making the determination that the name droppers are "highly skilled in the art of conversation"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.219.88.140 (talk) 20:37, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paragraph on Hip-Hop

The paragraph below (that is included in the article) on hip-hop violates Wikipedia's policy of NPOV.

Rap artists have always been known to drop names in their songs when they send a shout out to other rap artists, ostensibly acquaintances. In recent years, however, they have taken grandstanding to new levels by being seen in their videos driving expensive cars and wearing lots of bling, and in addition to mentioning names of important people, it is now common to mention the names of expensive or elitist brands of clothing, shoes, jewelry, cars, liquors, and even private jets.

Particularly the part: "In recent years, however, they have taken grandstanding to new levels by being seen in their videos driving expensive cars and wearing lots of bling (...)"

Who are "they" exactly? I also feel some racism included in there.

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Just because one person takes offense to perceived racism, the neutrality of the section should not come into question. "They" are the majority of "rap videos" regardless of race, creed or color. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.128.249.28 (talk) 14:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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I'm not so sure that it's racist, though it's tone is questionable. However, racist or not, it does sound very derogatory towards hiphop as a genre. The comment is obviously referring to the most mainstream of hiphop artists, and I don't feel it should make sweeping generalizations regarding hiphop and/or it's artists. Mainstream hiphop artists make up for less than 1% of the world's hiphop artists, therefore I feel this article should be cleaned up. I am willing to do it if people agree with me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.179.240.67 (talk) 15:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


I agree,this article does seem a little prejudice towards hip-hop,not racist though.it needs to be rewritten. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daverich313 (talk • contribs) 04:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Other Songs which Use Name-dropping Section

What about "Rock and Roll Heaven" ?

Also, this page is linked to from the Jefferson Airplane entry. To what song does this refer? 76.2.230.187 (talk) 06:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandals inserting their own names

I deleted their mention in the article. Discuss. White 720 (talk) 23:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I've changed the heading (as it's essentially giving them what they want). This is an ongoing thing, the nonsensical inserting of their own names. All we can do is revert until they get lives and move on. freshacconcispeaktome 14:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Name dropping on Wikipedia

Perhaps a section on uncited name dropping in Wikipedia? Typically, it's nothing more than:

  • padding/fluff
  • adding an interwiki link to a notable article
  • attempt to elevate importance of article to encyclopedic

Examples: so-and-so was inspired by [[Article of person]] or thought of joining [[Article of organization]]. -- Robocoder (t|c) 17:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Madonna's song Vogue

Is this not also considered name dropping? Kurtto (talk) 01:52, 17 March 2008 (UTC)