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[edit] Clues about Ben's death

Yeah...

Finally, Elliot, while searching the hospital for Carla to persuade her to accept Turk's facial blemish, asks the janitor for assistance in doing so. He tells her that he'll "check the dumpster", to which Elliot replies, "We're not looking for a dead Carla." The janitor then says, "That a girl. You stay optimistic.", implying that, like Cox, Elliot is in denial.

That's just not correct. That's just a joke on the part of the janitor, more likely than not to escape from the task. I pulled it out.

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mm, most of that's true -- it's only the "implying that, like Cox, Elliot is in denial" part I would remove because it is original research/editorial comment. The JPS^{talk to me} 09:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

There's a fourth clue-- after Cox learns of Ben's death, his next appearance is subtitled "two days later" and he's being woken up by a drunken human alarm clock. He talks about the 'event' that day, but Jack's party would've been yesterday.

Not true. Nowhere in the episode does it specify the date of Jack's birthday. It's implied to be soon, and that's about it. HoCkEy PUCK 23:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, I'd say this episode nods to My Blind Date where Cox lets the ending slip when the Janitor is watching The Sixth Sense.

I say there is a fifth clue. Cox explains to "Ben" in the 14th minutes that "If I'm not here, people die." It just so happens that within the half an hour Cox was not there that day, Ben died. MichaelCurry 00:35, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Hardly a clue

We know that someone died when he was out, it was just assumed by the viewer that it was Mr Taylor chrisboote 19:03, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I just watched the episode and saw that the patient that J.D. is working on when Dr. Cox comes up to him is not Mr. Taylor. This patient, among other things, has a moustache. --Jedravent 01:24, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I just noticed that myself, I'm going to pull it.Darquis 22:54, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I just verified this as well. I'm going to clean up the "Homage" section of the article. (Better late than never.) —DragonHawk (talk|hist) 01:32, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

is espinosa actually a candy bar in equador like carla says? might be worth a mention, regardless of weather it is or isnt.--Numberwang 19:27, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Aren't the second and fifth clues a bit of a reach? The second has to have a parenthetical explaining the interpretation that is obvious from the episode, and it also assumes Dr. Cox is infallible (he says the patient won't die, so he doesn't). The fifth is obviously a reference to the person who died, but that person is implied to be Mr Taylor; there's no reason to assume it's a reference to Ben unless you already know Ben died. Nothing about it indicates that it is Ben rather than Taylor who has died. Darquis 03:28, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Here's another one..right after the unnamed patient dies, JD's monolouge talks about Denial..at the end of the episode, he talks about Acceptance, the first and last of the five stages of grief (respectively). One could also argue that bargaining occurs as well. Darquis 22:54, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removing original research

I've tried to reduce the original research in the "Homage to The Sixth Sense" section. I've rewritten it to try and simply summarize what is presented in the episode, and not synthesize conclusions. I suspect it still needs work -- one can become blind to OR after spending time with primary source material.

There are a few things which I very intentionally removed, and I wanted to note why:

"Before J.D. is dismissed by Dr. Cox, he is seen standing at Mr. Taylor's bed." It's not the same actor. As noted above, the easiest way to tell is by looking for facial hair. Mr. Taylor (the wheelchair patient with the irregular heart beat) had no mustache; the patient in the bed does.

"Elliot looks at Cox curiously ... unaware of Ben's presence". On my first viewing, I supposed this was just because Ben dropped his act when she turned around. This was getting too close to original analysis for my taste.

The entire second-to-last paragraph: Aside from containing uncited analysis, it duplicated previously mentioned material.

The "nature of Ben's postmortem appearances" part. As it said, this is never explained. It might be Cox is having the breakdown mentioned, it might be a benign figment of his imagination, or it might be just another one of the show's frequent use of visual poetic license. Without some kind of source, anything we say on this is speculation.

Respectfully submitted,

—DragonHawk (talk|hist) 02:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Russian Roulette Line

Best. Dr Cox. Quote. Ever.

Jordan: What activity should we have for the adults?

Dr. Cox: How about a Russian Roulette booth? And, here's the kicker: We put bullets in all the chambers, that way, everybody wins!

Wow, a page about a single episode of a soap opera, and there is a "trivia" section. Genius. Thehalfone 10:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Wow! An awareness of the generic differences between a single-camera comedy, and a soap opera wouldn't even be genius. The JPS^{talk to me}