Talk:MVT

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I'm rewording the following quote from the page:

Originally, that was something like a 360/40 controlling a 360/65 or greater processor through a magnetic tape channel controller processor. We had this nightmare at the university I attended in the late 1960's but we junked it for HASP which ran on the 360/65 alone (really a 67 with the TSO hardware turned off) with first OS 360/MFT and later MVS (when it worked). God bless HASP, written by 5 people who knew what they were doing. ASP was a total lost at the time, designed to sell second computers, mainly 360/40s. HASP needed only one computer and MTF to start with. Later, with MVS, it was the standard. That was for a couple of years.

While it's good anecdotal evidence, it isn't really in the tone of an encyclopedic entry. I'm going to see what it takes to make it less of a POV. --Elkman - (talk) 21:57, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Retitle as "OS/MVT"?

For consistency with other articles about IBM OSs and with IBM's own nomenclature. Philcha 00:13, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose; added the source to the article. --Kubanczyk (talk) 19:57, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, the term "MVT®" is a registered trademark of Qualpro, that stands for Multivariable testing, a process improvement company that competes with Six Sigma. This title needs to be changed.

Juda S. Engelmayer 14:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

This is hardly an argument to consider. MVT was developed and used in 1960s, and it predates by far this book. --Kubanczyk 17:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Not an issue of predating or post dating, the term MVT itself is a U.S. Registered Trademark, irrespective of the book. Juda S. Engelmayer 19:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I guess we've settled that this is not a issue then. Neither U.S. law nor Wikipedia guidelines require encyclopedic articles to use (or not use) U.S. Registered Trademarks. --Kubanczyk 08:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Restructure of articles about IBM mainframe operating systems

After a big edit of MVS I concluded that the whole set of articles about IBM mainframe operating systems from System/360 onwards needed to be re-structured to minimise overlap and to make clearer the evolutionary relationships between these operating systems (notably in memory management, which is historically a major distinguishing feature). There is already some support for this proposal. Please add comments at Talk: MVS. Philcha 23:56, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rewrite of Job Control Language in progress

As part of the proposed restructure of articles on IBM mainframe operating systems (above), I've rewritten Job Control Language to: cover IBM's DOS/360 and its descendants as well as OS/360 and its descendants; focus more on the facilities and flavour of the 2 JCLs rather than on details of some statement types and some of their options. Please comment in Talk: Job Control Language. I'd be particulary grateful for more info on DOS/360 and its descendants, especially after 1980 - I only used DOS JCL a handful of times, and only in the late 1970s.

The rewrite does not currently take account of Truthanado's point in Talk: Job Control Language about use of "JCL" by computer suppliers other than IBM, which may entail further restructuring of articles about JCLs. Philcha 00:13, 21 October 2007 (UTC)