Talk:Music of the Final Fantasy series

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[edit] Good call Valenkorps

Could we possibly give this page seperate entries (put still on this page)on the music from each game. A bit of information on the styles and motifs would be great. Let's see how much data we can get on each album, and maybe if each gets too big, we can give them seperate wikis.

Valenkorps

By all means. I'll start by expanding the scope of the article from not just "compilations" to the music itself. "Compilations" should ideally be a subsection of the Final Fantasy Music article.Zaorish 08:13, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Expanded the intro to set a wider scope for the article. I have to go to bed now but I'll add more as I have time.Zaorish 08:21, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] I put in sections for FFVI and the recurring themes

Because I'm such a retro nut. Crazyswordsman 04:05, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hymn of the faith

As it stands, the article implies that there's renditions of the Hymn for each of the PCs. My experience from my 6 playthroughs, though, was that each rendition of the Hymn belonged to an aeon -- eg. a low, masculine for Ifrit, a child's (or soprano's) for Bahamut, etc. As it a fact that each character has their own theme music, there should be a line break to remove the implied relation to the Hymn. I went a long and changed it, but if anyone objects, please let me know! -- Bakabaka 19:31, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

The CD does have Yuna's theme, Tidus Theme, etc... but it is not the Hymn of the Fayth. The hymn is called Song of Prayer on the CD and there is one for ech aeon. Renmiri 23:34, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Star Onions

Shouldn't the Star Onions be mentioned as well somewhere? --Pinkkeith 21:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prologue, Prelude, and FFX

Okay, I just want to make sure everybody's clear on the standard definitions of these two recurring themes:

Prelude=Ascending and descending 1-2-3-5 harp part in chords C Major A minor C Major A minor F Major G Major A flat Major B flat Major or their analogues; opening title screen of FFI, FFVII, et al.

Prologue=Chords F Major C Mm7 B flat Major A m7 B flat Major G Mm7 C Mm7 etc.; crossing the bridge in FFI, integrated into the finale track in (probably among others) FFIV, FFVI, FFVII, FFVIII, and FFIX.

Given all that nonsense, I'd like to dispute the part in the introduction that claims that the Prologue was sampled in an early track on FFX; as I recall it, the Prologue was completely absent from the game and a fragment of the *Prelude* was featured in that track. I assume that this oversight was due merely to an error in terminology (prelude and prologue are fairly similar etymologically, after all -- prelude : Latin "playing before" :: prologue : Greek "speaking before"), which is why I transcribed all that musical business and cited occurences.69.168.161.140 03:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FFII Piece in FFVI

It's mentioned in the article that an unsused dungeon theme from FFII appeared in FFVI. Which song is this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Josparke (talk • contribs) 02:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Article Title

According to the Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style, shoudn't the article title still be "Final Fantasy music" instead of the new "Music of Final Fantasy"?

201.40.25.217 06:04, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rewrite indeed

The disclaimer is no joke--this article is very poorly written and contains bits of commentary that are neither informative to the topic nor contributive to larger thematic content.

There are also numerous instances of erroneous, unwieldy, and ignorant descriptions and/or references to music practice and terminology.

I must advise a collaboration to rewrite all sections of the article. The section themselves are, currently, still viable headings under which information can be organized. It is the content that is of severe concern.

I would also encourage only those with strong musical background to implement and maintain information pertaining to the study, practice, culture, and art of music or music history. I am not discouraging anyone without such training from contributing at all; these contributions should be kept within your own personal informational capacity and it is not recommended you extend your reach beyond your own personal knowledge and experience. The article as it is looks extremely amateur and, frankly, embarrassing to those of us that take music culture and specifically video game music culture seriously.

This is not intended as offense to anyone. But if other articles pertaining to music can be informative, professional, scholarly, and neutral, there's no reason this one can't be.

I'm open to thoughts and suggestions from anyone. Winterglaive 18:45, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article nomination

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[edit] Only one audio sample

and it's Hymn of the Fayth? I'd think that any of Prelude, Victory Fanfare, or a Chocobo theme would be more representative. —Random832 21:25, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

There are other samples, e.g. many on Music of Final Fantasy VII. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 11:44, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
But I just added in a sample of Techno de Chocobo, for the hell of it. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 12:26, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)