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I think the article could be further expanded with more infos and assessments of their style and achievements. The article is completely uncited and the trivia section should be incorporated in the main prose.--Yannismarou 08:59, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, i removed heaps of crap and added the cite tags awhile ago, seems no one has done anything about it. I might work on it after I'm done with my current projects. Just removed the trivia and cheers for the review. M3tal H3ad 09:18, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genre

I am changing the genre classification from agressive rock to agressive rock/nu-metal as they have at times claimed to be nu-metal and mix hiphop with metal which is trademark nu-metal.

[edit] Members

I have the band members in alphabetical order. Personally, I feel this is more logical than the previous, random ordering.

sempiternal 11:34, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Someone keeps adding themselves, drum tech Little Dan, and other members that are not in Mushroomhead to the members list.

Drum Tech Little Dan should be added to the list of members. He does play the water drums for them.

VinTheMetalhed 20:46, 20 March 2007 (UTC)VinTheMetalhed Little Dan does not count, He is not listed ANYWHERE on their official site or myspace.

Little Dan does not count, He is not listed ANYWHERE on their official site or myspace.

6/16/07 Why is "Joe Kilcoyne" listed as "Mr Mooooooo"? He's always been credited as "Mr Murdernickel" on the self titled debut and on the Universal Records release of XX.

[edit] Biography

Just for the record, I wrote the biography. I spent a lot of time on it and it met the approval of Thirteam, the band's online street team. As such, I kindly ask that it stays as close to the original as possible.

Thank you.

sempiternal 03:07, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Not bad but... a bit too longwinding. Feels a bit too self-promotional. (imho) // Gargaj 17:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
EXTREMELY self promotional. I'm changing it for bias reasons.

[edit] Songs

Changed the song title "Marijuana User" to "Slow Thing" because thats the proper title.

[edit] Costumes

I reckon someone should write a bit more on the their costumes. Because, that may be the most unique thing about Mushroomhead. Either that or their music. But yeah, they've had a lot of different costumes. They have main ones, like the Old School stuff, the 'XX' ones, there was a few after XX and XIII and now the Savior Sorrow ones (well I'm assuming they're for Savior Sorrow) which can be found on their website.

Maybe people don't judge costumes to be as relevent as I do, I don't know.

Oh and there was also the time they dressed up as Slipknot, and then as US Presidents, and there was probably many more.

[edit] Mushroomkombat

If anyone has time they should make a page on Mushroomkombat, it deserves its own individual page.

[edit] Picture

What happened to the Picture? It was a good one for the band. Who took it down? 216.250.13.29 01:31, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

We need to insert two more pictures, one of them with J-mann and the traditional X-Face masks, and a current one of them and their new masks.

[edit] Influence?

The article says: which have influenced Korn and/or Slipknot. Uhm... what the heck is that supposed to mean? Korn and Slipknot? Or Korn or Slipknot? In the latter case: does that mean it isn't at all sure if both bands are indeed influenced by Mushroomhead? Or is this just an assumption based on the fact that Mushroomhead have a similar style and started earlier? Sounds to me like we need some sources here, otherwise it looks like this is just somebody's own personal conclusion, not backed up by any hard evidence. You know, in the land of music and bands there's just too much speculation about who influenced who... it really isn't helping anyone. So untill somebody comes up with some solid sources, I'm just gonna replace that statement with something about the styles of those bands being similar, regardless of who influenced who. Greetings RagingR2 22:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uniqueness

There are no text about how unique Mushroomhead are. Keyboards and samples play very important role in their music. So I added a few sentences about it ontop of the page -um dude thats an opinion. Nahh, it's not an opinion. They are one of the few Heavy metal bands to use keyboards that much, while still haveing a guitar.

its called cradle of filth and dimmu borgir. they have keyboards and guitar featured in their music. and yes it is an opinion. i wouldn't call mushroomhead metal either.

[edit] Side Projects

Should ther be a seperate page for Mushroomhead side projects, or should we add them to see also.?

[edit] Edit: Bias/References/Poor Writing

The main header of the article is terribly written (the first paragraph of the main section).

I removed two lines entirely, in an effort to clean it up: "The music of Mushroomhead is very progressive and some people use to call it "art metal". The sound is very differerent to many heavy alternative metal bands because there are keyboards and samples in Mushroomhead music." The "art metal" part (which should be led into with "used to," not "use to") is of no relevance, and the point about the band being "differerent" serves no function here (nor is it true, as keyboards and sampling are prevalent throughout metal).

Also removed the comment: "(who many fans and former band members claim are a ripoff of Mushroomhead)." This should be cited to a reference, and if it IS to be used, it should be in the body of the article.

Removed the band "Tool" from the list of bands with similar sounds, as there are few (if any) similarities between the two.

[edit] "Special Edition" of XIII...

For the record, there is nothing special about copies of XIII sold at best buy stores. There were stickers on the celophane(sp?) which stated that the track Crazy was exclusive to best buy, however this has been proven false, as this track appears on all copies of the album (except the advance version where it was replaced with "Along the Way"). The Special Edition of the album on which the tracks "Treason" & "Loop#6" appear, is simply the British copy of the album(anyone who's into music knows taht cd's released in the UK and Japan oftentimes have one or two bonus tracks, due to the fact that they are more expensive). So there was never a best buy exclusive copy with those two tracks. I have edited the main mushroomhead article, as well as the article for XIII, and corrected this information.65.43.221.230 16:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discography

Can somebody please get the exact statistics on all of MRH's albums. I tried to make an accurate discography table but could only get consistent info on Savior Sorrow, XX, and XIII. Any info on M3, Superbuick or the self-titled, please, put it in the table ASAP.

Cheers --ARandomHeretic 05:22, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't XX be in the Remix section of the discography table. The only previously unreleased track is Empty Spaces and the rest have been remixed.

[edit] Random unreferanced slipknot hate

certain lines in text is random, and seems to be written by a fanboy on the spur of the moment? fix or not? Jackpot Den 15:39, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Fix, from what i see this article has no references so the more the better. M3tal H3ad 04:09, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure somewhere on www.black-goat.com it says something about this all being resolved, if I find the page I'll post a link. No guarantees it's there though... - Scott

i deleted that slipknot hate info. it was uncitied and kind of biased. it just didn't see neccessary for it to be in the article. who wrote that in there anyways, a mushroomhead fan? Dedman-88 20:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I posted the stuff about the christmas concert that I got from a link that was at the bottom of the page. Blindsnyper

there wasn't anything about a christmas concert. there wasn't anything at the bottom of the page either.Dedman-88 12:50, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

My bad I thought it was a Christmas concert, it was a Halloween concert. I guess the Nightmas Before Christmas theme was what got me, but here's the link to the article anyway. Blindsnyper