Talk:Museo del Prado

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Hi Guys -- doing a spanish project & I need info on Museo Del Prado..is this good information..accurate?

  • Well, I visited the museum last December and yes, the information is accurate, albeit scarce. The Spanish wikipedia page on the museum is much more comprehensive (but still not what IMHO should be), so if your command in Spanish is decent enough I recommend it rather than this English one.

[edit] Photographs

According to the Spanish pages of the museum, la toma de fotografías y filmaciones no está permitida en las salas del Museo Nacional del Prado ("filming and photographing is not allowed"). The English pages say nothing. This wasn't so earlier. Flashless photography was allowed in the permanent collection. When did this begin? --84.20.17.84 10:52, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

There was nothing by the 30 April 2006. --84.20.17.84 11:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prado?

I find this sentence to be confusing: "This "prado" (meaning meadow in Spanish) gave its name to the area (Salón del Prado, later Paseo del Prado), and later still to the Museum itself upon nationalisation." Which meadow is El Museo del Prado built in? I don't think the article ever mentions the meadow by its name. authraw 17:04, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

cool —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.139.234.108 (talk) 20:14, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Presumably it was just called "the meadow" Johnbod 14:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, It was called just "The Meadow" or "Salón del Prado". It was an elegant place in XVIII century. Now is going to be a restoration plan directed by Priztker´s Winner, Siza. The area will become a pedestrian quarter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.223.168.62 (talk) 18:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Numbers

I changed "the museum has over 8,200 paintings" (or something like that) to "about 3,000". The accession numbers go up to 7,695 (in 1996) but a) many of these are not paintings I think, and b) these include modern works no longer in the Prado collection, but the Reina Sofia etc. The full listing in the back of: Museo del Prado, Catálogo de las pinturas, 1996, Ministerio de Educación y Cultura, Madrid, No ISBN - suggests about 3,000 paintings are counted in the Prado collection now - nearly 16 pages at 192 entries per page . Johnbod 14:12, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Wrong. Prado have almost 9000 paintings, but They show just 3000. The rest of the paintings are spread in many publics buildings -gobiernos civiles- along Spain. But They are part of Prado´s Heritage.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.223.168.62 (talk) 19:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
No - or they would be in the complete catalogue refed above. They don't display even 3,000 in the museum itself - I would guess 1500-2000 at present. Johnbod 19:13, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
It was quite easy to find how many paintings Prado has. According to its own web page (http://www.museodelprado.es/en/ingles/collection/description/): "The collection currently comprises around 7,600 paintings, 1,000 sculptures, 2,400 prints and 6,300 drawings, in addition to a large number of works of art and historic documents. At the present time, the Museum is displaying 1,000 works in the main building, while around 3,100 works are on temporary loan to various museums and official institutions. The remainder are in storage." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.85.197.38 (talk) 15:18, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
NOt actually what it says - 1300 on display etc. The large Museo Reina Sofia collection used to be in the Prado (largely) & the website still seems to be counting them, although the complete catalogue does not. The 1996 catalogue shows the catalogue NUMBERS for paintings go up to 7695, but the introduction explains great numbers of the paintings have been transferred to the Reina Sofia etc. It is the same with the National Gallery and the Tate in London. I suspect the web-site person has missed this point, or there is some civil servants turf-war going on. Johnbod (talk) 02:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

As far as I know, I believe the problem is that lots of Prado museum paintings and objects are shown not in the Prado but in other museums and monuments. For example, all the paintings that decorate the Royal Palace (Palacio de Oriente), the Casón del Buen Retiro (and actual part of the Museo del Prado) or the monastery of San Lorenzo del Escorial (quite a big number of them there) are Prado's paintings, and so are counted on the catalogue (and added to confusion), which shouldn't have increased a lot since 1996. However, the Reina Sofía collection has been separated from Prado for nearly 20 years now.

Some, but certainly not all, of the Escorial paintings, are Prado loans - they don't catalogue the El Greco St Maurice for example. I think the Royal Palace is the same. The Prado only catalogue 2 Rigauds, whereas there are more than that in the Royal Palace alone. There is also La Granja, which has many Prado paintings. But all these are included in the figures. Johnbod (talk) 15:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC)