Talk:Muliebrity

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For the May 2005 deletion debate on this article, see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Muliebrity.

I have removed the {{prod}} tag, if only because the argumentation didn't seem valid. I don't know how recently a word must be coined to count as a neologism, but the OED records "muliebrity" as early as 1592:

The characteristics or qualities of a woman; womanhood, womanliness (opposed to virility). Also: softness, effeminacy. ?1592 Trag. Solyman & Perseda sig. G2v, The Ladies of Rhodes..Haue made their petition to Cupid, to plague you aboue all other, As one preiuditiall to their muliebritie. a1693 Urquhart's Rabelais III. xxxii. 270 Individual Womanishness or Muliebrity. 1858 O. W. HOLMES Autocrat of Breakfast-table ix, The second of the ravishing voices..had so much woman in it,muliebrity, as well as femineity. 1888 B. HARTE Phyllis of Sierras II. i. 169 This tall..woman..possessed a refined muliebrity superior to mere liberality of contour. 1911 H. G. WELLS New Machiavelli II. ii. 206 She was one of those women who are wanting inwhat is the word?muliebrity. 1959 S. B. MEECH Design in Chaucer's Troilus I. ii. 25 In presenting the heroine he stresses, not haughtiness, but muliebrity. 1997 Southern Lit. Jrnl. 29 45 Janie's story of personal growth may be charted as one that travels from mules to muliebrity.

I mention this because all the dates I've seen mentioned in the article and the previous debate were 1997 and later. The word is considerably older than that. I think I even knew the word before then, but I'm not sure. It may still be transwiki-able as a dictionary definition, but in that case, "virility" should perhaps go as well. --Stemonitis 18:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, cool. My reaction was to seeing the sentence This neologism was introduced.... Nevertheless, if this isn't a neologism, does it offer anything beyond a dictionary definition? It should probably be transwikied, yeah? --Brad Beattie (talk) 01:40, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

My feeling is -- and the reason I put the "expert" tag up ages ago -- is that, while this article provides little more than a dictionary definition right now, that is because it is in need of expansion, not a cause to transwiki it. I feel like the dictionary definition provides very little insight into the meaning of this word, and I would rather see it expanded into a full entry. (In fact, the reason I discovered this entry was because I found the dictionary definition of the word insufficent when I was looking it up.) ~CS 02:15, 11 December 2006 (UTC)