Talk:Muhammad Abdul Bari

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[edit] Requested move

Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari → Muhammad Abdul Bari – Personal title inappropriate for article name Mtiedemann 15:58, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

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  • Support as in intro. Mtiedemann 18:44, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose. That is is title, perhaps it might be more appropriate to name him President of the MCB?-LGreen
    • Comment. From Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) - "Several general and specific guidelines further specify that article names preferably... don't add qualifiers (such as "King", "Saint", "Dr.", "(person)", "(ship)"), except when this is the simplest and most NPOV way to deal with disambiguation". In addition, Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies) states that Dr should not be used in the opening sentence but should be discussed if relevant later in the article. Mtiedemann 18:43, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Support per nom. Ardenn 20:12, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

In light of the cited Wiki conventions (which I must hold my hand up and say I hadn't read so closely) I would like to do a whopping great u-turn! I now support the move to edit the name and place my Support for it.-LGreen

Moved. —Nightstallion (?) 15:19, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Surname"

This is a wider question than just applying to this article
Is "Abdul Bari" in fact one name? All the "Abdxxxs" I have met have been Abd + a word supposedly showing an attribute of their god, so "Abdul" seems to me to be a truncation. Is it really Abdulbari? In any case is "Bari" really a surname? (Mind you people may call themselves what they like within the bounds of decency and honesty). The minor Islamic people with whom I am best acquainted are happy to use Name + Father's name + His father's name + that for as long as it takes to establish a unique identity at the particular moment, to the great confusion of UK officialdom which insists on a "proper" surname.--SilasW 11:13, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Bari is his "surname" - this has been a common way of naming people (particularly in the Indian sub-continent) and is most likely due to people's lack of knowledge of the Arabic language. → AA (talk) — 12:34, 10 November 2007 (UTC)