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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:TSFC Logo.PNG

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[edit] Duplicate images uploaded

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[edit] After Midnight's talk page

In case you miss it:

To Sandy: One, I'm not the TSFC, I _volunteer_ for them. Two, you erased my work within 100 seconds of me posting it before I could even establish rationale, etc. (And that goes for you too, After Midnight -- don't either of you have lives? With you, Sandy, I suspect a disorder is informing your decisions. And the TSFC/TSA rivalry myth is sick - stop acting like such a war-drumming American) Why don't next time you take a deep breath, wait a few minutes, and see what the editor finishes with. And not caring about wasting NPO money, After Midnight? What's wrong with you? Are you listening to yourself? The power trip thing is so, so ugly, again going for both of you. - Mt Valley —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mt Valley (talk • contribs) 05:10, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

hmmm. Goodness, Mt Valley, you're off to such a fine start after the help I gave you on establishing Tourette Syndrome Foundation of Canada. I've never erased your work; I did help you establish notability months ago. I removed a three or four words of WP:PEACOCKery so that, as discussed with After Midnight (talk · contribs), the justified COI tag could be removed from the article to the talk page.[1] I hope you've had a chance to read Wiki policies including conflict of interest, verifiability, notability, be civil and particularly, no personal attacks. Volunteer or not, the TSFC is editing their own article, and I've offered to help, explaining to After Midnight (after he justifiably placed a COI tag on the article, probably because you're uploading images improperly) that there had not been a problem so far. Of note, although I've helped you establish that article since the day you first edited, you have just lodged a blockable personal attack against me. I can't find After Midnight's comment about NPO money, so I don't know what that's about. TSA/TSFC rivalry; I have no idea what you're talking about, but I can say that the Tourette Syndrome Association isn't editing their entry. Ta! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:55, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Sandy, you initially attempted to remove the article, I would hardly consider that help. You did eventually acknowledge a need for notability, but that's not exactly insight: it's Wiki policy. My observations were were based on repeated comments (which After Midnight appears to have been erased) about you "keeping people in line" and others that are clear indicators, as with After Midnight, of a need for authority/power, however minor it may be. You stated that you had sources/connections where others did not. Again, your language demonstrated a lording over, a superior position, one of mockery and braggery. I apologize for my reaction and appreciate your recent edit. However, when established editors have these kinds of attitudes and jump on other, less experienced editors while they are in the middle of editing says a great deal about the climate here. User:Mt Valley —Preceding comment was added at 22:02, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm afraid that isn't correct, Mt Valley; I have never attempted to remove the article. I asked you to establish notability a year and a half ago, and even though the article's notability is still marginal at best, I helped push that along and never prodded or AFD'd the article (that is what it takes to remove an article from Wiki). Click on the History tab from the article, and you can see that I have never come close to "attempting to remove the article". I'm not aware of any comments erased by After Midnight, but since I'm not him/her and had never crossed paths with him/her, whatever s/he said or did doesn't involve me. Where have I stated that I have sources others do not? I stated I would try to establish the article's notability myself. I have now done that. I have gone through every source I have, and have found that Kushner's book devotes a couple of sentences to the TSFC; I can find nothing else, nor can I find anything else on a news search that isn't from the TSFC. I'm afraid I can't acknowledge having demonstrated any of the attitude you claim, because the *only* thing I have done with this article is to let Wiki notability and COI policies slide in your favor, as I personally recognize the importance of the TSFC. As I acknowledged to After Midnight, establishing notability for the TSFC is harder than for the TSA, because the press usually mentions the TSA. I hope you are able to reread the messages you seem to have misunderstood, and will come to see that I have only tried to help the article in your favor. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:15, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

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