Talk:Motorcycle helmet

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Contents 1 Start 2 BS standards 3 Open face or 3/4 face 4 DOT "Lax" 5 DOT link

[edit] Start

Removed the phrase "Keeps your melon in one piece", as it duplicates what is already written in the preceding sentence -- "protect the rider's head during impact" -- but in less encyclopedia-like vocabulary.

--Trainspotter 10:57 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Given that the comment "Also, many people in stores have shot helmet wearers on the grounds of preventing dangers to themselves." was posted from an attbi.com IP address, i.e. a US provider, I think it best to assume that it refers to US stores, and add the words "in the USA" (unless there is evidence that the problem is truly international).

No doubt in some parts of the USA, there are people who will shoot the first thing that moves ;) But certainly where I live (in the UK) it is simply not a serious risk to motorcyclists that they will get shot if they do not remove their helmet before entering a store.

--Trainspotter 11:07 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I've never heard of someone shooting a helmet-wearer in a store, and I do live in the USA. Unless someone can come up with some factual basis for the statement, I'd suggest removing it from the article.

--Arthurrh 20:25, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Multiple Reflective Optic System: While the Reevu helmet is a pretty cool idea, I've never seen mention of anyone actually buying one. There have been quick "first look" reviews of prototypes "just about to ship" for a few years now, but nothing by anyone who has owned one and wore it for any time. Is there a point to giving a plug to a maker of Unobtainium helmets? AndroidCat 17:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] BS standards

Are no longer in force, and haven't been for several years. All countries in the EU are regulated by ECE2205, with each individual testing country indicated by a number outside the E mark circle.

[edit] Open face or 3/4 face

I'm not a biker, but I'm researching helmets, and while looking at the websites of motorcycle manufacturers, almost none of them call their helmets 3/4 face. They all said open face. Also, out of the first 10 results of a Google search for 'open face', 4 of the results referred to motorcycle helmets, while a search for 3/4 face only had 1. Thus, it seems to make sense to change the text to refer to open face instead of 3/4 face.

128.187.0.165 01:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I have been a motorcyclelist for over 30 years. I've taught training classes for the MSN for approx 10 years and wore a helmet for appox 20 years. I do NOT wear one now. Be aware of the helmet manufacturers lobby. There are pro's and con's of use. Head injures in autos are also significant yet non-driver are not compelled to insist that auto occupants wear a helmet. If you asked the average car driver to wear a helmet he would say "that's silly" there hot, uncomfortable, clumsy, obstruct your vision, heavy, itchy, and would lessen the enjoyment of driving. Those are the same reasons some motorcyclist don't want to ware one. Many cyclist have a false sense of security while wearing a helmet. They are given a feeling of safety that just isn't there. They tend to drive faster at inappropriate times: rain dust etc. And contrary to Harry Hurts helmet film your peripheral vision IS effected. In order to look to the side for a lane check, you need to turn your head much further while taking your attention from forward where you should be looking. Helmet weight issues and accident are ignored.--Felpetlin 22:41, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I have been riding for several years, and wearing a helmet the entire time. While I won't dispute all your points in this forum (although I do not completely agree with them) your comparison to automobile drivers is not a valid point. In most states, it is mandatory that everyone inside of a car wear a safety belt. There is also considerable protection given to the occupants because of the fact that the passenger compartment is enclosed in structural steel and also by the sheer weight of the car. My bikes don't have safety belts, and I wouldn't want them to. If I do put one down, my best chance of survival is for the bike to not come down on top of me. I've never put down a road bike, but I have flipped quads and been seriously injured in the process.

My favorite bike weighs 671 pounds when it has a full tank of gas. My truck weighs 4200 pounds. If my bike was in a collision with my truck at 45mph the truck would sustain moderate damage but the driver would probably come out of it with a few bumps and bruises. The bike, on the other hand, would be pulverized and the rider would probably be dead. If wearing a helmet increases my chance of survival by even only 35% (which is the lowest estimate I have seen) I'm going to wear one.

In addition, bikers are a danger to both themselves and others when they are unable to keep up with the flow of traffic. I travel 45 miles one way to work and I ride my bike except for in the winter. In order to make the trip in under an hour, I have to go on the interstate for about 30 miles. Even at 75mph not having face protection is both miserable and dangerous. Especially when you consider the number of trucks on the interstate that are throwing sand and stones around. It's even worse if it starts to rain. Rain drops hurt at 35mph. At 75, they are agonizing. Primium mobile (talk) 13:50, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DOT "Lax"

DOT standards differ from SNELL standards, however, inadequate evidence exists demonstrating that riders wearing a Snell certified helmet are less injured in similar accidencts than those wearing DOT helmets. Anecdotal evidence may even indicate the opposite; that softer helmets cause lower G's on the brain - a leading cause of damage. 208.59.127.132 21:18, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DOT link

the word "DOT" is linked now to the disambiguation page. 216.183.92.253 17:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)