Talk:Moto Guzzi

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[edit] SPAM

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Due to the amount of spam being added to the article, it has now been protected against editing by unregistered (IP) users. This should alleviate the problem that has been seen over the past couple of days. --Cheesy Mike 10:05, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright violation

A significant amount of material from the external site [1] was added recently. The addition has been reverted; please do not re-add the copyrighted text. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 13:47, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] World Championships

The article states 14 World Championships. The List of Grand Prix motorcycle racing World Champions shows only 8 world championships. Can anyone account for the other six? It could be that they were championships on other forms of racing such as hill climbing.Orsoni 09:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I just noticed that Moto Guzzi also won 6 Constructor's titles. I'm assuming that's where the other 6 titles come from. If so, it's a bit misleading. I'll edit it to be more specific.Orsoni 03:54, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Durability of the small engines?

"durability of the mechanical parts"??? To the best of my knowledge, at least the larger versions of the small engine have a serious reliability issue, also warping cylinder heads (planar design), drive shaft failures, it goes on and on. I do like Guzzi but words like "durability" seem to have their boot on quite another foot. The Honda VFR does exist you know.--Cancun771 17:24, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes and no. Particular runs of the small blocks suffer from bad valves, with the valve stems elongating and the valve head eventually tearing off (I lost a V50 head that way). There is a parts update however that fixes that, using the valves of the V50NATO, which are made of better quality steel. So, the V50III and the early four-valve V65 and V75 do have reliability issues. However, later runs of the small block are about as reliable as the big blocks. The heron head construction itself is not a source of problems.
What does make a difference is that the small blocks are much more sensitive to keeping the correct service intervals. The low oil capacity means that if you don't religiously check the oil level, it will run dry pretty fast. Keep to the service intervals, do regular oil checks, and they will run without problems to the 100.000 mark. After that, you're in a bit of a bind, as the bikes don't keep much value, and a complete rebuild is not worth the money unless you're an enthusiast.
Granted, all this means that similar displacement Japanese bikes are less of a hassle. Mvdwege (talk) 21:24, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Guzzidrive.jpg

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I replaced this image with my own. Motorrad-67 01:43, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of models

I propose moving the list of models (current section Models) out into its own article. See List of Honda motorcycles, List of Kawasaki motorcycles, etc. for examples. Brianhe 15:56, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Good idea. --Cheesy Mike 16:02, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
OK, done. Created List of Moto Guzzi motorcycles. Brianhe 06:41, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
What about keeping at least the current models on this page? It seems odd that the motorcycles themselves aren't on the Moto Guzzi page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Packa (talk • contribs) 10:21, 8 November 2007
Good idea, I added a brief mention of each of the current models. Brianhe 15:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Boy. It still seems awkard and strange that at least the current models -- perhaps the very reason for having the article --are not on the Moto Guzzi page. Agreed the length of the "models" section was getting very long. Can we consider moving the current models back -- in their entirity? Or at least a list with links?842U 19:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MGS-01 Corsa Engine pedigree

I removed the sentence 'A 4-valve version of the Carcano engine was created in the early 1990s and is currently used in the 1250 cc MGS-01 Corsa.'

The Carcano design is an Overhead Valve design, using pushrods to actuate the valves. The MGS-01 Corsa uses the SOHC configuration introduced in the Daytona. As such, it is more correct to refer to its engine as the evolution of the John Wittner engine that was introduced in the Daytona. About the only thing John Wittner's design shares with the Carcano engine is the crankcase.

Also, the Carcano design is most definitely 2-valve only. All 4-valve big-block Guzzi's currently on the market are based off the Wittner engine. The small-block twins with 4 valves are based on yet another design, evolved from Lino Tonti's original V50, and these too are OHV designs.

If I could remember how to insert links, I would post the links to the technical specs on the Guzzi home page. Mvdwege (talk) 21:01, 20 January 2008 (UTC)