Talk:Mortal sin

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[edit] Whether "Latin" is needed before every instance of "Catholic"

Dear InfernoXV -- Yes, I am well aware of the differences between Eastern and Western teachings on this issue. I think it is good and appropriate to make that distinction, which is why I agree that it makes sense at the start, in the very visible first sentence. But I do think the repeated use of qualifiers "Roman" or "Latin" before every single use of "Catholic" only belabors the point, and makes for ponderous writing. I won't revert what you put back, but I would ask for others to chime in. Regards, Mlouns 14:35, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

CIX! Thank you for the kind words. Perhaps this might be a way out - to specify at the very beginning that this concept only apples to the Latin Church, that the Easterns don't use the concept, and having said that, add a little 'for the rest of this section, "Catholic" may be taken to mean "Latin Catholic"'or words to that effect? I do agree, having to state 'Latin' or 'Eastern' is slightly ponderous and makes for infelicitous prose. Ideally, I'd prefer 'Western Church' and 'Eastern Churches' as the basic distinction, but that will be nearly meaningless to anyone but specialists in theology and liturgy, and is apt to confuse the general reader. It's merely the 'Roman Catholic = Catholic' sort of paradigm that I'm not comfortable with. --InfernoXV 18:13, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Definition of Grave Matter

The obvious literal interpretation seems to be that which could cause or result in death, but this does not match with "A venial sin may be left unconfessed" and my general understanding that confession happens a whole lot more often than death or even acts of neglect that have a large change of resulting in manslaughter, but didnt... so, what does it mean, exactly? Help a non-catholic who wants to understand his future wife's grandparent's religion and culture out please! (added to clarify: Rather than a list of grave matters, I am looking for the line of reasoning or stream of decisions, whatever it may be, that resulted in the list)

70.162.81.229 04:18, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

The article seems to imply that using a contraceptive is as bad a sin as murder. Do the powers that be in the Vatican really believe that? Millbanks (talk) 22:47, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Grave 'Concern'

I have a "grave concern" with this article., Murder & masturbation are not on the same ,or even close, mortal plane in modern Catholic thought. Neither is ‘missing Mass”. Catholicism is not a slippery walk over the fire pit. I removed the purient content.

I would recommend   reading the  Catholic catechism on line,, as  the subject  is hard to
’ wikisummarise”

cheers Opuscalgary 02:38, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Agree with the original poster of this. According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, under certain conditions, masturbation may not even be considered as a grave sin. AMStecker (talk) 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dear sneaky vandal:

I have changed incredulity to lack of Catholic belief, cut the silly sex references,ref.ten commandments. Please go elsewhere. thanks Opuscalgary 01:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC) Image:DoNotFeedTroll.svg

[edit] Mortal Sin band

I noticed theres a aussie band called mortal sin too. Why is there no link to it? i tried to do it myself but couldnt figure it out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Sin. Portillo 04:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unclear Disparity

I'm not sure how to interpret the statements together about being baptized and therefore being irrevocably part of Christ's human family and the quote "Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell." What is the outcome of the soul who commits an unrepentant mortal sin yet was baptized in the church?

[edit] "New" mortal sins

The link to the article is to something about "new deadly sins," not mortal sins. Also, that article itself is inaccurate; the Cardinal didn't add any "new" sins, he was just giving examples. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deambrosejr (talk • contribs) 02:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)