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Please review the content of the page Gutstein, and you will find a standard biography covering hte life of Rabbi Morris Aaron Gutstein. This page should not be deleted as it is not an advertisement or any otehr unpermitted submission.Joshua Gutstein 19:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Considering that your name contains the name Gutstein, it is a very safe assumption that it is advertising a family member of some kind, such as an uncle. And yeah, it may be a standard biography, but that's not what's in question, it's notability is. It was deleted once already, and it's notability hasn't gotten any higher. ≈ The Haunted Angel //The Forest Whispers My Name// 19:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

He is my grandfather, and I can see how that may cast a shaddow on his notability, but the bio includes his list of writings, high positions held in the community, etc. If I added links, would that overcome the deletion?Joshua Gutstein 20:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Depending on their quality, it may not solve the problem, but it would certainly help, so go ahead. ≈ The Haunted Angel //The Forest Whispers My Name// 20:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I guess if my references do not have Wiki articles, then my article will not rise above notability, right? (thanks for giving me this time to clarify)Joshua Gutstein 20:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Your references don't have to have anything to do with Wikipedia, as long as it links to a reliable source. When you next edit an article, look between this box and the edit summary - that's a brief description. ≈ The Haunted Angel //The Forest Whispers My Name// 20:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I just moved the text around to highlight Rabbi Gutstein's notable achievements. Will that work?Joshua Gutstein 21:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

A definate improvement, but as a final thing that would make it notable would be external links to other websites (or references to books) that would prove notability. See Wikipedia:Attribution for more information. ≈ The Haunted Angel //The Forest Whispers My Name// 21:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More changes

Alright, I think I did a way better job of highlighting the notable acheivements and attributing them. Please review and see if the article can survive disposal. Thanks, Joshua Gutstein 22:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Almost perfect, there's one minor change that's needed though. For each link, you've put "[www.example.com link title]". The "link title" part isn't needed, it should just be "[www.example.com]". Correct these and I will remove the template ^_^, oh, and don't forget the "http://" bit before the www. - I havn't seen any such mistakes, but double check, it's better to be safe then sorry! ≈ The Haunted Angel //The Forest Whispers My Name// 22:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! I'm working on doing a better job with the article. I'm going to resubmit leter with a more polished one. Thanks again for your patience with me, Joshua Gutstein 12:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem, any addition to improve Wikipedia is valued, I'd say that this is good enough now to avoid the speedy deletion :) ≈ The Haunted Angel //The Forest Whispers My Name// 15:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)