Talk:Monk Parakeet

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[edit] Names

These are called by at least 4 common names in english: Quaker or Monk, parakeet or parrot (four possible combinations all of which can he found on hte internet) --BerserkerBen 15:47, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Is it not possible that this bird naturally spread from South America to North America?

No. Parrots are not migratory, and this is a southern temperate species, which does not occur in tropical South or Central America, and is thus separated by many hundreds of miles of unsuitable habitat from the US cities whre it is found. jimfbleak 05:27, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Only member of genus?

Article states Myiopsitta monachus is the only member of the genus, but other article lists Myiopsitta luchsi (cliff parakeet). Is that not the same genus?

That subspecies is not generally recognized as a seperate species. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 07:45, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Case for species status is strong, but a roundup of available data is clearly needed (eg for AOU to accept it) HBW recognizes it, and generally it seems prudent to do so - the taxon is only known from a remote area so that non-acceptance as distinct species is more due to lack of material than to scientific fact... Dysmorodrepanis 02:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move the Name

Out of all possible names for this bird, I think the official title of the article is probably the very least common.

Typically, they are sold as Quaker Parrots. What's more, they're not parakeets; they are parrots. They lack the raised fleshy nostrils of a parakeet, and are occasionally misnamed parakeets purely because of their small size. --Kaz 20:02, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou, I like quaker parrot better. The problem is not hard to solve just move everything from here to Quaker Parrot and delete everything here and replaced it with a redirect.--BerserkerBen 22:18, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Oppose. The official English name used by ornithologists for this species is "Monk Parakeet". The American Ornithologists' Union and the British Ornithologists' Union both use the name Monk Parakeet; "Quaker Parrot" is a "folk name" and has no official standing. - Aerobird 22:24, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
The usual standard for wikipedia is that the name people are most likely to seek is the one which should be used, not the one which is official but less common. --Kaz 17:50, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I would like to see some substantiation of the claim first. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 17:53, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
And if it is moved, it should be done properly so as that the history moves with the page, not by copy and paste moving. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 17:56, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Last point, name if with capitals under the wikiproject bird rules. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 18:00, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
A quick search at google:
  • Quaker Parrot:82.500
  • Quaker Parakeet: 24.300
  • Monk Parakeet: 147.000
  • Monk Parrot: 2410
The assertion that it is the most common used name is incorrect. So, there is NO argument to move this page. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 18:04, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Oppose. Totally agree with Kim. and it should also be noted that Quaker is largely North American - I've not heard it used outside the US. Also my two NAm field guides and my site guide to the birds of Florida just use Monk. jimfbleak 05:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)