Talk:Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game
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[edit] insiders vs. outsiders:
insiders would be the scouts, and the outsiders would be the statisticians. There is a tension between the two, as the outsiders offer a fresh perspective and the insiders offer experience. The insiders control the rules of the game and naturally have a competitive advantage
[edit] democratization of information:
as access to information is opened up, this levels the playing field for the outsiders. The information that the man at the top of the hierarchy bases his decisions on rarely trickles down to the outsiders at the bottom. Lately, with technology and the internet, more information makes it to the leaves of the hierarchy, threatening to empower the dismantling or usurping of said hierarchy.
[edit] uh...
He wants someone to explain those themes on the article page. Here it does no good. zellin 16:29, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] opening paragraph
Is the central premise of the book about statistics or, as the title says, the art of winning an unfair game (by capitalizing on market inefficiencies). Being a rabid A's fan, I'd say the latter, though Joe Morgan (as well as other announcers) have blown it into a stats-based strategy. The only statistical basis which will continue is that you try to avoid outs - the organization cannot have high OBP/OPS players anymore once they become overvalued, as they have over the past few years; instead, they must turn to something else. (And also, if the central premise is stats, why is it in the Financial section of bookstores?) -- Jjjsixsix (talk)/(contribs) @ 05:40, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Jeremy Brown DFA'd
A paragraph reporting that Jeremy Brown was "designated for assignment" by the A's has been added twice. I'm deleting it a second time. The reason is it is not notable enough to be worth mention in an article about the book Moneyball. Yes, Jeremy Brown features prominently in the book. But that doesn't mean this article should document everything that happens in his career. People who are interested in learning more about Brown can read the Jeremy Brown article.
Also, the way the text was worded made it sound like being DFA'd was some kind of final judgment on his career, and it's not. Brown is still a professional baseball player in the Oakland A's organization. Mrhsj 14:39, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- It is of course worthy of being noted in Moneyball. Brown is a primary character, as you yourself admit. The book even ends with Jeremy Brown hitting a home run. It is appropriate to note in the article that Brown, contrary to all the hype he received from Lewis, is a failure as a prospect, as the "fat scout" anticipated. Further, the article takes pains to note "trade steals" and players "found" by Beane, so it should mention a player who has turned out to be a bust. Vidor 22:20, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- I have no problem with the way the information has been added back now. Mrhsj 23:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Excessive Wikilinks?
It seems to me there are far too many WikiLinks on this page. Do we really need links to Century and Wisdom? I'd be glad to remove them if people agree. anonymous6494 00:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
