Talk:Monarchy of the Netherlands

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Which member of the Dutch royal family was it who was born in Ottawa? - montréalais

Princess Margriet (the youngest sister of Queen Beatrix) was born 1943/01/19 in Ottawa, when the family were refugees in Canada due to the German occupation of the Netherlands. Jeronimo

Interestingly though, she was not born in Canada, as the wing of the hospital where Princess Juliana was giving birth was officialy ceded to the Netherlands for the purpose of this event, and presumably returned to Canada afterwards. Lokimaros 10:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

She was not her youngest sister: Christina is. She was born in the Netherlands after the war

See http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/UK/royal_house/members.html (the English homepage of the Dutch royal house)--branko

Are there any Republicans in the Netherlands? I know for instance there are quite a few Republicans in England (and probably even more than will publicly admit it -- it appears to me that a significant portion of Labour MPs have Republican sympathies, but the Blair Government would like to avoid this being overly noticed, lest they offend the royalists in the general public.)

Very interesting question ! Only a few are confessed Republicans. Many have Republican sympathies, but do not care too much. Even recently deceased Prince Claus of the Netherlands called the Netherlands a republican monarchy in an interview he gave for German (his home country) television. The House of Orange-Nassau ruled the Dutch Republic (in episodes) for ages before the Netherlands became a kingdom under their rule. The Dutch monarchy is less distant from the public than e.g. the British monarchy. In daily practice many feel that a republic is more democratic in theory, but may be more autocratic in practice. For instance the United States and France have much more power centralised in the person of the president than the dutch government has in the person of the prime minister. Formal power of the queen is very limited.
I may add some of this to the current page. Erik Zachte

Adding to Erik's answer (that's all correct), one or more of the smaller political parties have raised the issue of abolishing the monarchy this or last year (was it D'66?), but without much approving reactions. The last serious call for abolition was done at the end of World War I, when socialist/communist Troelstra called for a "socialist revolution" (after the Soviet example, no doubt). This, too, was a rather futile attempt. Jeronimo

This articles states that Luxembourg became independent in 1890 because of the accession of Wilhelmina. The Luxembourg and History of Luxembourg articles both give an earlier date 1835 and 1867. Which is true? Danny

I think the following was the case:

Luxembourg became virtually independent in 1867, (Treaty of London, AFAIK), but the head of state would remain the Dutch monarch; sort of like the Queen of England is the head of Australia and Canada. When William III died in 1890, the accession rules in Luxembourg required a male heir, while the Dutch rules allowed for Wilhelmina (through Emma at first) to inherit the title. Adolf of Nassau was then appointed Grand Duke of Luxembourg, ending the "two nations, one monarch" situation. Jeronimo

Thanks. Danny

Contents 1 Pluralization? 2 Dates? 3 William I 4 Juliana 5 Willem-Alexander 6 Over templated

[edit] Pluralization?

The article currently treats "the Netherlands" as a plural (as in "The Netherlands have been"). Is this standard? Google finds twice as many hits for "The Netherlands has," and Google News (hich can usually be counted on to be more correct) contains nearly eight times as many hits for "The Netherlands has." — Asbestos | Talk 09:06, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

In the Netherlands itself official usage would be to treat "the Netherlands" as the plural it is, but the nations name in Dutch is "Nederland", a singular. Of course "Kingdom of the Netherlands" is singular. Lokimaros 15:00, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dates?

The dates of the reign of William I on this page are 1815-1840, but on William I of the Netherlands they claim his reign was 1813-1843. One of these should be corrected. — Asbestos | Talk 09:19, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Both dates (1813 and 1815) are more or less correct; I hope my addition on this page explains it a bit; a full explanation is in the William I of the Netherlands article. Eugene van der Pijll 09:26, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] William I

I've always heard that king William I was not a direct descendant of William the silent, those died ou in a paternal line when stadholder-king William III died in the early 18th century. He is a direct male-line descendant of one of William the silent's brothers I believe, although in a female line he is directly descendant to William the silent. Does anyone know it exactly?Knijert 14:08, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

This article is only about the monarchy, which was founded in 1815; see Prince of Orange for earlier details. In short, you are correct. Eugene van der Pijll 15:32, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Juliana

The section about Juliana ends in what appears to be a Spanish sentence: "y miroouu kiere ser reina!", which I can't seem to fully translate through online translators. I would suggest someone with the necessary knowledge translates it, or, if they know what it says, removes it if spurious. Lokimaros 15:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I think its just vandalism (it had typical signs of vandalism it was not capitalized properly and it was entered in a separate line of code, without making a separate line of text). So I've removed it. - C mon 17:14, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Willem-Alexander

The article uses the expression "crown prince", but in the Dutch monarchy no such title/position exists. The term is "the Prince(ss) of Orange" instead -- as opposed to "a Prince(ss) of the Netherlands" and "Prince(ss) of Orange-Nassau". Lokimaros 16:05, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Over templated

IMHO this article appears to be 'overtemplated'. Ie the templates and boxes used take more space then the body text. This is a problem for layout. Please fix. Arnoutf (talk) 13:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)