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I added Raja marga since it is a central understanding of Hindu thought about moksha and removed shunyata since Hindus and Jains don't believe in nothingness while Buddhists avoid using the term moksha.

Should it be noted that the translation for विमुक्ति is vimukti (or vi-mukti if you prefer)? I realize the वि- prefix makes it the more proper term here, just note it in the transliteration. Khirad^talk 22:49, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moksha central theme in Buddhism

Moksha is the central theme in Buddhism. In fact, hindus were unaware of moksha before Buddha. Look at [1]. --Anirudh777 10:38, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Hm.. I have never heard of this before. But can you point to the exact reference please. The site is a large collection of ebooks, so if you can pull out the ebook that says Moksha is a central theme to buddhist, that would be helpful. Thanks Monkey Brain 15:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I also have never heard that, but would not be too suprised. BTW, can anyone please indicate more distinctions between moksha and nirvana. Le Anh-Huy (talk) 17:52, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mention of Aldous Huxley

There is a misleading mention (probably an edit) of Aldous Huxley's novel 'Island' in the Buddhism subsection. This should probably be removed to the end in a 'References in Popular Culture' subsection as seen on many Wiki pages. Further, both Huxley and the Novel have pages of their own to link to. I am usually not one to edit any pages I casually read, leaving that to those that are more informed than myself.

[edit] Some basic understanding

This article should include some basic spritual information as well before going into the details to assist the reader...eg understanding of what happens when an individual while still possesing a body on earth reaches the point when the last sin their soul bears becomes perfectly balanced by act of good deed...

Now 'soul' means what survives when the 'body' ceases to exist as a living form[and those who believe when they die its just everlasting blackness this topic is of no further interest to you...but i would be very careful what i believe about my soul...]

'Sin' means what the soul/souls that by act of 'unbalanced-self-interest' causes 'disruption, destruction and trauma' on other soul/souls(which by the way is the definition of 'evil'), earns...so, taking an example, a soul cannot commit sin by damaging something that does not have a soul eg rock...unless the amount of rock damaged causes above said to souls...but a soul acting on another soul does earn sin...so 'sin' is a currency that only goes with the 'soul'...

And this topic of moksha or samathi or nirvana...is eastern religion in essense saying if you keep doing good deeds to counter balance the evil in ones soul then it is possible to bring your soul back to balance...albeit a mature old soul. As compared to western religion that says you evil will be balanced in 'hell' through suffering to bring the same balance...again with 'escape clause' of if you beleive in jesus then its all forgiven...again be careful what one believes when it comes to your soul...

And for the budding theologians out there...the most interesting question is this 'what happens at the moment when the last good deed balances the the last evil act in ones soul'...in eastern religion, the belief is that the body can no longer exist with the soul, so the body energies back to its basic elements releasing the soul...as with budda and other swami's...in western religion, when all the evil is balanced by suffering, then the soul can no longer exist in hell and will go back to become one with the body of god, and which in same balance, to complete the cycle which started when a small part of god energy separated to become your soul...,

And the most important of all is the understanding that god does not have a physical form, ie exists as energy...so to understand topics relating to god ie spirituality one must have their spiritual eye ie the 'eye of energies' open first and use it in their daily situations of life eg how does one explain the colour yellow to a blind from birth person...

Sam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.104.86.137 (talk) 00:39, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Referencing and Bibliography

Clear referencing and bibliography should be inputted as without, this article has no academic quality.

[edit] Moksha

"The impersonalist schools of Hinduism also worship various deities, but with the idea that such worship is ultimately abandoned - both the worshiped and worshiper lose their individual identities." That depends which school of Advaita, you're obviously ISKCON all impersonalists are the same to you but there are several different schools of Advaita i.e. what can be known as 'Reform Advaita' of Sri Ramakrishna even Sri Aurobindo and other modern gurus... Vishishtadvaita or Ramanuja's school...Ishvaravada Advaita(monistic theism, panentheism Shaiva Advaita which is also known as Ishv. Advaita...some lose their identities some don't! Ishvaravada contends that the Supreme(insert whatever name) really exists and is also the absolute and creative forces... The key is total or near-total identification with Brahman the Absolute. Also pure Advaita Vedanta Sri Adi Shankara's school of complete identification with Brahman though that can depend...It's important to note that one must separate definition of the ego from the idea of individuality...ego is known as 'ahamkara'(I-maker) so one can still exist but completely identify with Brahman..DomDomsta333 (talk) 01:56, 15 February 2008 (UTC)