Talk:Mohamed al-Kahtani

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Contents 1 "Sergeant A"? 2 foreign fighters --> foreigners 3 Investigations? 4 Trial and execution 5 questionable edits... 6 reads somewhat oddly

[edit] "Sergeant A"?

The interrogation log Time made available describes a female "Sergeant A" as the lead investigator during the 4:00 to 12:00 shift. I wonder if it was Sergeant Jeanette Aracho-Burkart, the interrogator who is known to have worn skimpy clothes, and to have reached inside her pants and faked smearing detainees' faces with red liquid she said was her menses. -- Geo Swan 05:49, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] foreign fighters --> foreigners

I changed the characterization of the large roundup of foreigners in post-invasion Afghanistan, and the Pakistan "tribal areas", from "foreign fighters" to simply "foreigners".

The Denbeaux study definitely demonstrated that the Guantanamo detainees largely weren't "fighters".

• "No surprises in the war on terror," BBC, February 13, 2006
• The Denbeaux study methodically analyzed the allegations US intelligence officials placed against the detainees. Only 8% of the 517 detainees who went through a Combatant Status Review Tribunal were alleged to be fighters.
• Many critics who have read the transcripts that the DoD has been forced to release have grave doubts over the credibility of the allegations, and suspect a significant fraction of the remaining detainees are not just not terrorists, not just not "fighters", but are innocent men, who have zero association with Al Qaeda, the Taliban, or terrorism, and were merely unlucky enough to be found in the wrong place at the wrong time.

No doubt whomever characterized the Guantanamo detainees as "foreign fighters", as if this were a proven fact, didn't realize it was POV -- but it is IMO -- highly so. -- Geo Swan 03:29, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Investigations?

Die the Times publication of the log lead to any criminal investigations? What is described clearly breaks the Geneva Conventions and US law. 88.73.110.3 12:13, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trial and execution

• I guess that the trial would take place in Guantanamo itself, but what about the execution and the execution technique. Would they use lethal injection ? Where would it take place ? Hektor (talk) 14:43, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

• They didn't seek a death sentence for Moussaui, who may merit the description of "20th hijacker" more than Al Qahtani. After reading the transcript from his 2006 ARB hearing I reconsidered whether he actually was supposed to be one of the hijackers.

• I found the tone of his hearing very different from the tone of the 2005 hearings. The Presiding Officer practically begged him to use his influence to get fellow captives to attend their hearings. (Less than 20% attended the 2006.)

• They probably will seek the death sentence for KSM -- that is one way to shut him up, so the public doesn't get a graphic description of the torture he underwent. A mistake, in my opinion, because, when it is widely recognized he couldn't possibly have played as central a role as he confessed to under torture it would be really helpful if he was still alive to try to (humanely) get the real story. Geo Swan (talk) 03:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] questionable edits...

An anonymous IP made what I regard as questionable edits. The role of the wikipedia is not to serve as a hagiography.

They changed extrajudicial detention to simply detention. Extrajudicial detention is both accurate and neutral.

Calling the CCR a "a radical left wing organisation" is editorializing. Calling the CCR "a radical left wing organisation with ties to George Soros" -- is a tie to George Soros supposed to justify calling the organization "radical left wing organization"? Well, it is WP:OR.

There is an open question as to whether a large number of captives were tortured. But there are three captives that the DoD has acknowledged were subjected to extreme interrogation methods that practically everyone but the Bush administraton acknowledges were tortured. KSM and Abu Zubaydah are two of them. And Muhammad al Qahtani was the third. The article said "torture" prior to the IP's edits. The IP put "alleged torture". Since the DoD acknowledged using extended interrogation methods on him, I will change it to that wording. Geo Swan (talk) 23:27, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] reads somewhat oddly

A large portion of this article seems to be more or less a dump of primary sources---verbatim transcripts, quotes, timelines, etc. From an encyclopedia article (a tertiary source) I would've expected a more concise summary, based mainly on secondary and other tertiary sources, with only occasional quotes of the primary sources where particularly useful to the reader. As it stands it's kind of hard to read, especially for a nonspecialist. --Delirium (talk) 23:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)