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Contents 1 This page is unnecessary 2 Modern History 3 Period, not "times" 4 Westphalia 5 Hypothetical "Late" Modern Times 6 Enlightenment

[edit] This page is unnecessary

At first, I was going to suggest that this page be merged with Modernity, but I'm actually fascinated with the suggestion of the commenter below. Either way, this page is wholly unnecessary.

To maintain that there's something called 'modernity' that entails changes in society and then the 'modern era', a technical term for historians, is kind of ridiculous. Doesn't most history, in its striving for objectivity, intend to be a public history (not just something technical and separate from the rest of society?). History is ours, not theirs (the historians).

I remember this as one of the 1st things I was taught in college.

I have a problem with subsuming 'modern era' or 'modern times' to simply a technical term. I think the data of this page should be added to 'modern history', but that this page "modern era/modern times" should reroute to modernity.

Navidnak (talk) 12:15, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Modern History

This article has much in common with Modern history, so it should be merged or clearly distiguished... --Flammingo^Parliament 14:23, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Period, not "times"

Please fix this article so it doesn't refer to "Modern Times". The most common term is by far "Modern Period". The current layout makes the article seem a lot less serious than it should.

Peter ^Isotalo 14:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Westphalia

I added the Peace of Westphalia to the list, since it was a significant event establishing the idea of sovereign states, among other aspects of nationhood.

CKSCIII 19:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC) shut up!!!

I added the Glorious Revolution (1688) to the Early Modern events. Also I added the Congress of Vienna (1814), the Revolutions of 1848, the unification of Italy and Germany (1871), the October Revolution (1917), and the Great Depression (1929). These events were all critical in shaping the world we live in today, I hope everyone agrees. --SCJE (talk) 17:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hypothetical "Late" Modern Times

Thanks Flammingo for your Welcome on my user-page.

On the topic: Google is an indication, not more not less. However several hundred (mostly Wikipedia replica) results are unsignificant. Not random, not guessing. Reference[2] don't give any Reference for this hypothetical foreign language use, no source. Even if you'll find one, this would be an individual, not a largely recognized use. As regards content: "Late Modern Times" ?  And afterwards: "Latest Modern Times" ??.
No, that's not serious. (Just like this "marketing term" of so-called "Postmodernisme".) Historians currently agree: 1. Ancient Times (till about AD 500), 2. Middle-Ages (about 500–1500), 3. Modern Times afterwards, with Renaissance (~ 1420–1580) as a "hinge-joint" epoch.

• Modern Times: since middle or end 15th century.
• Early Modern Times: up to middle or end 18th century.

French historians for example continue till nowadays, to designate fr:Histoire contemporaine all the history since end 18th century.
Of course, this use is inconsistent since Contemporary History may cover always about 80 years from now. However, beside, a newfangled, but interesting theory – by an effective division of CE 1990 (There is no year zero: AD MCM.XC) – let begin
the actual Modern Times in AD 1792 exactly one. So-called Early Modern Times (1492–1792) prepared these our current Modern Times. In no case "Late Modern Times" is a term currently used by historians. -- John-Herbert 2007 11:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

This is different from German terminology. I'll check then...Einen Moment, schreibe morgen weiter, heute und morgen früh keine Zeit mehr ;-) 22:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I guess it's solved now. --Flammingo^Hey 15:57, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Enlightenment

"The Enlightenment" is referred to 4 times without a reference 80.229.242.179 16:58, 15 July 2007 (UTC) That was an era in European ("Western") history of roughly the 18th century promoting the use of Reason to discuss topics, not belief as it used to be. Does that answer your question? --Flammingo^Hey 22:59, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

need more info