Talk:Moderate
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I sincerely object to the following passage:
Perhaps because of their conciliatory and cautious general nature, it has been stated that there are no great moderates. While this point could certainly be argued, it is inarguable that the most memorable political and religious leaders have generally been at least largely identifiable as either left-wing or right-wing.
The entire passage in the article about the lack of great moderates is POV, in my opinion. A very strong case can be made that George Washington, arguably the greatest president in the history of the United States, was a moderate when he was acting as president. Another of the (arguably) greatest presidents in U.S. history, Abraham Lincoln, was considered somewhat moderate when he was elected president, considering his plans for dealing with ex-slaves (sending them back to Africa, of course he later changed his mind) compared to the ideas of more emphatic abolitionists of the same era. I'm certain other examples abound, those two are merely off the top of my head. I plan to add a POV tag to the article, or simply remove the relevant passages, in the next few days if no serious challenge to what I'm saying here appears. - Jersyko talk 22:04, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
- Whether one has a conciliatory nature is not due to one's ideology; I'm generally conciliatory but am considered to be more radical. What about Martin Luther King? Conciliatory and highly memorable, moreso than more radical leaders such as Malcolm X. I'd remove the passage. Juan Ponderas
[edit] separated politics and religious
Religion and political definitions of conservative, liberal, othodox and fundamentalist are unique. It was confusing to lump them together. A fundamentalist baptis is not necessarily a political conservative, jsut as an orthodox Jew is not necessarily a conservaitve. Nor is a secularist a liberal.
I split out the religious and political definitions to more closely reflect the distinct differences in the definition of moderate. Tbeatty 04:25, 3 December 2005 (UTC) tbeatty
[edit] Moderate vs. centrist
I think this article needs to explain the similarities and differences between the terms moderate and centrist. They seem to often be used interchangeably though there does appear to be some differences. --Cab88 11:26, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
