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1 I see you've been putting a lot of work into the Wald (onomastics) article.
2 Wahl clean up
3 AMC strategy and the history of the fastback Marlin
4 WP:PNT
5 Cook Islands Maori
6 Orthodox Judaism and Abortion
7 Carrot peelings
8 New Pages
9 Americanist Phonetic Notation
10 ipa-N
11 Cleanup of S-U articles
12 Candidate to Wiktionary
13 fyi
14 Wyandotte
15 Cook Islands Maori
16 Speedy deletion of Template:Georgian alphabet
17 Speedy deletion of LSDJ (musician)
18 Eşkıya Dünyaya

[edit] I see you've been putting a lot of work into the Wald (onomastics) article.

It seems you've been working on it quite a bit, translating some of the German (is that what language that is?) into English, and generally cleaning it up and making it a little less confusing.

Perhaps you would like to take a look at Roth (onomastics), a very similar article with a lot of the same translation problems. It is currently up for deletion, mostly because no one really seems sure what it is about. If you could improve it, maybe it wouldn't be in danger of deletion.

I don't know German, and I'm not even sure that language is German, so obviously I'm next to useless where that is concerned. But since you've done so much with the Wald article, maybe you can help with the Roth one as well. ONUnicorn 15:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I must admit I don't really know German (although Altavista Babelfish is helpful), but it's not too hard to translate. Now if there was an article which was not fully translated from Hebrew it would be easier.--Mo-Al 18:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wahl clean up

Thank you for doing this. Hopefully your efforts won't be reverted back. —WAvegetarian•(talk) 18:53, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I hope that the case gets dealt with before 3RR comes into play. Mo-Al 21:04, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AMC strategy and the history of the fastback Marlin

Hi Mo-Al!

I am not sure about the instructions you gave me about resurrecting the text. I am also not clear about the templates you suggest. The ones I found in the sandbox area are all blank. Because you are the computer expert and know your way around Wikipedia, I will copy the references for the Marlin article below and then perhaps you will have time to properly "Wikify" this entry. That will be a better solution and have less frustration for all. I also have photographs that would help illustrate this article, but handling them, and doing the proper uploads and placement is beyond my experience. I can e-mail them, but there is no way I can do it since you have not given permission on your user page. Please let me know how this can be best accomplished.

I wish to thank you in advance for helping out and appreciate your willingness to contribute to this subject.

CZmarlin --CZmarlin 02:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

References:

This material is based upon the paper by:

Christopher Ziemnowicz (Concord University), John E. Spillan (Penn State University - DuBois), and William “Rick” Crandall (North Carolina University - Pembroke) "Going Further With Less - a Historic Overview Of American Motors Corporation (AMC)" Presented at the 2002 Southern Management Association (SMA) annual conference that was held in Atlanta GA (6-9 Nov) http://www.southernmanagement.org/meetings/2002/SMA2002Program.pdf

The full article was published in the Southern Management Association Annual Meeting Conference Proceedings, November 2002.

The primary source of information were the company's yearly financial summary and report to stockholders:

American Motors Corporation Annual Reports, Published by AMC. The ones used for the Marlin section were the years 1960 through 1968.

Other sources:

Foster, P. (1993). American Motors, the last independent. (Krouse: Iola, Wisconsin).

Georgano, N. (1992). The American automobile, a centenary. (Smithmark: NY).

Livingston, J.A. (1967) Chapin, Romney AMC paths same - but different. Detroit News. 7/7/1967.

Mahoney, T. (1960). The story of George Romney builder, salesman, crusader, (New York: Harper & Brothers).

Meyers, G.C. (1986) When it hits the fan: Managing the nine crises of business. (Boston: Houghton Mifflin).

Moving Forward: a transportation legacy, Kenosha County Historical Society, Kenosha, Wisconsin, 1998.

Spina, T. (1965) Today it’s management men. Ward’s Quarterly, Vol. 1, Nr. 2, 64+

Okay, I can revert my deletion in the article, and add sections. It's ust that, from a glance, it looked like someone had just dumped a bunch of text from a website onto the page, while removing the info that used to be there. Mo-Al 02:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:PNT

You listed a page to be translated into English, the Kreuzberg (disambiguation) page. I have tranlsted it into English now, and I hope you find it satisfactory. I also wish you the dearestr of luck as you clean up the onomastics category. I've seen it, and I know the task you have ahead of you. Happy to be of service, RyanGerbil10 (Drop on in!) 04:23, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cook Islands Maori

I'm afraid this article need to be cleaned up only when you try to modify it. If you want to correct orthographic faults, you are welcome, but please if you don't know aznything about this language stop thinking that you contibutions are a necessity.

It's not orthographic faults, it's stylistic faults. The page is pretty messy, you have to admit. It's not even presented in the same format as the other language pages. I'll admit I don't know much about Polynesian languages, but I do know about IPA, and much of the work I have been doing is stylistic. Mo-Al 17:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it's messy. Language pages do not need to be presented in the same format anyway. If there are stylistic or orthographic faults, as i said you are welcome.

I recommend you take a look at WP:OWN. Also, there are some standards which Wikipedia uses, such as the infoboxes which appear on all other language pages. By the way, please sign your comments with ~~~~ Mo-Al 17:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the recommendation. As far as i know this article is not concerned. As i said you are welcome to help as you can, but do not delete or change things if you are not sure of it even about IPA Nevers

But I was saying I do know IPA. Besides, just because you don't think the page is messy, doesn't mean it's not messy. Mo-Al 17:34, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Agree to say that it needs an infobox. So if you want to do it...Nevers

I'm willing to later, but it still needs a cleanup tag. A lot of the article is phrased strangely too. Honestly, I'll often run into an article that needs cleanup, and think to myself "I don't really feel like cleaning this up, but if I don't add a cleanup tag, no one else will do it". That's why cleanup tags exist. I will do some cleanup work, but I'm not magical, and I can't perfect an article by myself. That's why we use the tags to notify others. Mo-Al 17:59, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok, i don't want an edit war too for a silly tag. But next time you add one, justify it in the talk page Nevers

[edit] Orthodox Judaism and Abortion

Abortion is a very controversial issue even within Orthodox Judaism. It's not so black-and-white. See [1] for example. Basically, it's prohibited (although according to some not to the same degree as murder, because its a different prohibition), but if the child endangers the mother's life it is in most cases permitted. --רח"ק | Talk | Contribs 04:36, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm aware of that. That's why you can't say that "Orthodox Rabbis refer to abortion as the "Silent Holocaust"; that's like saying that "Americans are Democrats". Mo-Al 05:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Carrot peelings

Wandering thru my watchlist, I noticed someone had found an old bit of 'stuff' hidden away in the Carrot article. Since I am interested in patterns of bad edits I went looking for when that edit got made. Now I'm totally confused, as it was you? Do you have any idea how that happened? Shenme 21:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm not sure how that happened, but I know that I am NOT the carrot vandal. What I suspect is that I had performed a revert on an edit which later got removed from the history (since the vandal was posting extremely obscene remarks in the edit summary), and the version I reverted to still had some "bagage". I'm honestly not sure, though. Mo-Al 21:37, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Pages

When are we going to see wikipages for Mircha Kefula and Shalsheles, and the other notes in the trop? --רח"ק | Talk | Contribs 19:28, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

That would be nice, actually, but Gershayim is also a punctuation mark in modern Hebrew. Mo-Al 19:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Americanist Phonetic Notation

Regarding a recent edit you made to the Hawaii article, please acknowledge Americanist phonetic notation. I contributed pronunciation transcriptions to the Hawaii article. At first, I used "j" for a "high front glide" (or whatever else you might want to call it, but you know what I mean). However, it bothered me, so I decided to use the "Americanist" symbol "y" instead. It's better with "y" because the Hawaii article is about the 50th state of the USA. In American usage, "y" gets the intention across better to the general reader than "j" does. Thanks. Agent X 12:46, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I was under the impression that IPA was the official phonetic transcription scheme for WIkipedia. Frankly, I find it confusing when articles use different symbols for the same sound. Mo-Al 14:08, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

since wikipedia is not only for US citizens, using IPA would IMO be better throughout WP. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 02:32, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ipa-N

[edit] Cleanup of S-U articles

As this editor is banned and currently not interfering with the cleanup, you might want to help us at Wikipedia:SU. Thanks and happy editing, Kusma (討論) 13:27, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Candidate to Wiktionary

I hope I've cleared up the confusion regarding list of common phrases in various languages's status as a candidate to wiktionary. I've archived the older discussions of the talk page so hopefully nobody mistakes an older issue for a current one. If you'd like to nominate it for movement again I think it's customary to wait a month or two longer (the vote was in September). Æµ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]} 05:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] fyi

the game is up for deletion again. Rdore 02:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wyandotte

Hi Mo-Al

Just been woken up by your banner noting that I should include 4 tildes Victuallers 11:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC) (Just to be sure!) I see you edditted History of Wyandotte, Michigan‎. I'm not an expert on this place, I was just trying to Wikify it. Reading the talk pages it appears that it is a complete "lift" from a book. But users like your self have substantially editted it. Do you have a reference? At the moment it still has "Reference" rather than "ReferenceS". If not then no worries. Victuallers 11:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm just formatting and trimming, I'm not adding new info. But I don't have the book it came from either. Mo-Al 18:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cook Islands Maori

Hi! I see you posted Cook Islands Maori on Wikipedia:Cleanup in July 2006. I'm int he process of trying to clean out old articles fromt he list. Could you review this page and see if it still has issues? I'd do it myself, but I fear that languages are not my Forte. Thank you! --Lendorien 19:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:Georgian alphabet

A tag has been placed on Template:Georgian alphabet requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 05:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of LSDJ (musician)

A tag has been placed on LSDJ (musician) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

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[edit] Eşkıya Dünyaya

I noticed an old request of yours at the reference desk about a translation of this song. Here is what I came up with:

The year is 1341 I followed my own

The devil became the cause I took a life

I wrote my name in the book of murderers