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[edit] Typo?
"The band often wore ghoulish makeup when performing, and bassist Jerry Only reputedly invented a hairstyle called the devilock, with the bangs coming to a point in front of the nose or chin, a style still worn by fans today."
- The bangs? Is this a typo? It doesn't make sense to me, but I'm not confident enough to change it.Desdinova 00:58, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Whoever wrote it didn't put a typo, they just misused a term. Technically, the term bangs is applied to a short fringe of hair across the forehead, the person who wrote "...bangs coming to a point in front of the nose or chin..." may have just thought "bangs" are the front section of hair. In all honesty, the best way to describe a devil lock in my opinion is "reverse mullet", long in front, shaved around the sides and back, and short on top.
It's actually not a reverse mullet no shaving is involved. What you do is wet your hair down and let it all hang to the front. Then you start gelling it down from back to front till you get the lock.
[edit] Biased
Is it just me or does this article seem pretty biased. Seems like it puts down Danzig quite a bit and leaves him almost no credit even though he wrote every single song of theirs.
Calling Balzac a band of "Misfits impersonators" is an insult and simply not true. They're inspired by the Misfits, but they're incredibly talented and uniquely original.
Thats not true at all. Balzac is a band of Misfits Impersonators. They are not original at all.The Clydelishes Clyde 01:12, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] conservativepunk.com
Is Graves really the conservativepunk guy? I thought it was Bobby Steele. -- Macador 19:22, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Yes, Graves is the conservativepunk guy. He even appeared on the Daily Show talking about his conservative views. - A.D.
Bobby steele is also conservative though. pretty stupid idea if you ask me. ghostbear616 23:54, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I think that Bobby Steele runs the sight but Graves is just a big supporter of it.
[edit] Where'd Jerry go?
I did a search for Jerry Only and was redirected here. Only was just as influential on the music world as Danzig, and thus deserves his own bio page. I may do a little research and make one of my own, but until then... we are 138. 68.7.91.130 05:49, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Jerry was indeed an important part of the original Misfits, but to say that he is just as influential on the music world as Glenn Danzig is simply absurd. I'm not saying Jerry doesn't deserve his own bio page, I just strongly disagree with your statement. - A.D.
Especially considering Danzig taught Jerry to play his bass and has only put out 2 studio albums (and a cover album) with the new misfits and with the entire band contributing as opposed to Danzig who released 5 albums while writing all of the material without help.
IMO Danzig has a public persona separate from the Misfits and Jerry really doesn't. What information would go in a Jerry Only page other than his affiliation with the Misfits? That being said, why give him a separate entry? His influence on the music world vs. Danzig's is irrelevant, the bottom line is there are more reasons why Glenn Danzig needs an entry than just the Misfits and the same is not true for Jerry Only. -pjjolly —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.216.90.16 (talk) 20:39, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Need to clarify the legal battle section
Was the battle for the rights to the Misfit's name and image with Danzig, or with the record company suits?
It was with Danzig. Danzig had copyrighted The Misfits songs under his name, which was justified since he was the author. - A.D.
Only was on for the ride nothing more - Feen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.94.168.10 (talk) 11:31, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Misfits" vs. "The Misfits"
I used to believe the correct name of the band was "Misfits", without the definite article. But this is apparently not the case. The early releases have "The Misfits" written on the front cover, although the full albums and several other sources seem to use only "Misfits". Can I have a confirmation on this? --Stickler 09:57, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it's Misfits or "The" Misfits (and neither is iTunes), but it may have something to do with how the band is referred to. You're not going to say "I'm going to see Misfits", you'd say "I'm going to see The Misfits". Personally, I think it's "Misfits", but I could be wrong. ~~
I'm pretty sure that "The Misfits" is correct. I mean, if he named the band after her last movie, then it would be "The Misfits", with the name being applied to the members of the band, rather than the characters in the film. Similarly, I've noticed a similar informal debate over whether it's "The Sex Pistols" or not, with it generally being agreed upon that "The" is part of the band's name. Refugee621 19:27, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
I think it's a thing of who was in the band at the time. With Danzig it was The Misfits. After Danzig is was just plain Misfits.
It's simply 'Misfits'. Yes, the name was derived from the Monroe film, so it's appropriate to refer to them as 'The Misfits' when referring to their earliest work, but all one needs to do is look closely at the later album covers to realize 'The' was quietly dropped. It may seem unnecessarily complicated, but it all depends on chronology. For sake of accuracy, it's best to say/write 'Misfits'. And yes, I would say, "I'm going to see Misfits," because that would be correct. Of course, you'll never hear me say that because, in my opinion, the band ceased to exist in 1983. ~GEO
In the newer album covers, there is no "the", so maybe this article should be renamed to "Misfits". Diamon 19:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed, this article should be renamed simply Misfits. MegX 01:59, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- I agree too - I will change the title Desdinova 20:34, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- Cancel that - I can't figure out how... Desdinova 20:35, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- This page should be renamed as "Misfits." I think it used to be, but somebody changed it for some reason. They USED to be called "The Misfits." RdCrestdBreegull 15:08, 13 November 2007
- Why hasn't anybody changed the title yet? This ignorance of facts is dumb.RdCrestdBreegull (talk) 21:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Sid Vicious reference
What is the point of including that Sid Vicious once offered the rest of the band to back him as a solo artist? Is it saying that he offered it to the Sex Pistols or The Misfits? Even once we've gotten over which band the statement is directed towards, you have to question how necessary it is to even include this reference.Refugee621 19:27, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Sid Vicious' brief solo career had backing bands composed of punk all-stars. The point of it was to say that a legenday figure in music had asked The Misfits to back him.
[edit] Heavy Metal Loves Punk
Has anyone ever realized that all the heavy metal and black metal singers say their favorite band is The Misfits or The Sex Pistols? Any clue as to why? I love The Misfits and I love heavy metal but...does anyone have any clue as to why heavy metal singers love punk? TearAwayTheFunerealDress 15:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
FUNNY u should say cuz basically misfits fucking rule and basically everyone was ther when it all came togeher and thats what basically started the "horror"
Punk and/or hardcore has influenced many types of music, especially heavy metal, more so speed and thrash metal; it's where the aggression comes from. Also, ever notice how some hardcore bands start sounding more "metalish" when they start playing more prolifically and receieve better production? It's almost like an evolution.
Yes. It is kind of like an evolution. The Misfits were a BIG influence on many different types of bands come to think of it. Interesting...TearAwayTheFunerealDress 15:34, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
- I was listening to a mix disc with a lot of Misfits songs today that I hadn't listened to for about a year. I was surprised to hear how metalish some of their songs were. I finally understand why Metallica cites them as one of their major influences.--The Ungovernable Force 22:03, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
early metal was based in the more bluesy, histrionic classic rock tradition. punk inspired thrash and post thrash to play faster, more aggressive and sometimes simpler music but still maintaining lyrical integrity.its easy to see how black metal bands got the idea to play rythmically straight tremolo riffs on one string.
[edit] Seven?
Just wondering what the deal is with this tidbit:
- "In January of 1977, after singing in several garage bands that mostly played Black Sabbath songs, twenty one year old Seven decided it was finally time to create something serious and original. As a tribute to Marilyn Monroe, he named his musical project after her final movie, The Misfits. seven was their roadie for several months before he became addicted to crack cocaine!"
Apart from being amateurishly written, it's a somewhat confusing passage, since it seems to indicate--in contradiction to the paragraph that follows it--that some roady named Seven formed the Misfits. Is this just vandalism? I don't know enough about the band's history to fix the problem, myself, but it definitely looks wrong. Anyone want to fix this? Buck 00:37, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Okay, never mind... it's obviously vandalism, and I've fixed the page, as far as this "Seven" business goes. Buck 01:14, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
What the fuck!? I remember reading this article like 7 months ago...and all they did is replace Glenn Danzig(Ex lead singer)with the word seven, then add a bunch of bullshit about being addicted to Crack Cocaine.
[edit] The Best
We can all agree that they're the best horror punk band there is though, right. I would just like you to add that they're not emo as most of the idiots in my high school make fun of me for liking them. User:Cancerhands
Not emo, The Mifits are real punk like The Ramones, The Sex Pistols, and Black Flag are. The Mifits rule!--GorillazFan Adam 04:02, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
- Um, most (modern) fans of the Misfits are poser-punks in my own experience (same with the Ramones). Some of the music is cool, but they're not as good as everyone else seems to think IMO. The Ungovernable Force 22:09, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I must inquire: Do these people making the claim of The Misfits as an "Emo" band listen to real Emo bands:IE; Simplan, Good Charlotte, Et cetra, that claim that they are Punk? what kind of school do you go too?
- For someone staking a claim against a band being misidentified as part of a genre, you certainly seem to lack knowledge of what "real" emo is. --75.2.11.133 (talk) 12:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
The Misfits kick ass!
The Misfits were great in their time and i still love their music but the problem with them and many of the other "godly punk bands" (ramones, exploited, misfits, sex pistols, germs, etc) is that they are the most recognized for starting punk so they're the first bands that kids who want to look cool will latch onto, kind of like mike joned dressing like a blood to make people think his music is more "gangster" for lack of a better term. And yes, many emo kids around the country happen to listen to non emo bands that are completely different from emo but its just because they think it makes them more punk or just cool.
Reaperscorp says: Hear hear!!
[edit] Static Age
Static Age was included in the discography section with the 1978 release date, but it wasn't released until 1997 (1978 is the year when the album was supposed to be released, see also the Static Age article). Is there a motivation for having 1978 instead of 1997? CapPixel 06:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Because this album was recorded in 1978 but the whole complete album (not just the singles) was released in 1995. Hope this clears things up.
saintjimmy777
[edit] Problematic and Biased Introduction
It is my opinion that a lot of the information given in the introduction actually belongs in the History section. Like the paragraph about lineup changes. Plus, it is pretty clear now that the article tries to make the Misfits seem like a one man band (That man being Glenn Dazing). Jerry Only is only mentiond as if a minor character in the group, and other members of the original band not mentioned at all. This should really be rectified. For the sake of consistency with other band articles in Wikipedia, the members of the original band should be noted at the beginning of the introduction. Since the Misfits were "resurrected" and all that crap, it would also be a good idea to mention who resurrected them, and not just say they "don't have Danzig with them". Ido50 23:12, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] vandalism
the last line of the legacy section is POV and only meant to anger. "these bands are unified by the fact that they all suck" i attempted to remove this but was unable to. can anyone fix this? 69.121.25.212 00:11, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Jimmy Battle
Suposedly one of the original misfits.. Does anybody know if he really does he really exist?? I suspect some clever vandalism...
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- He exists Fache 14:29, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Jimmy Battle does indeed exist, he's mentioned in the misfitscentral.com bios section during the practice sessions. He played guitar, but left and was then replaced by Franche coma
[edit] Bias towards Glenn?
Is it just me or does it seem that The author of this article had a strong bias against Jerry? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nishaddatta (talk • contribs) 01:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Semi Protection Needed
This spate of vandalism is atrocious - just check the history section, which hasnt been correct for many revisions. I believe this needs protecting. Desdinova 02:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Wow, the article seems to be missing some sentences/words. Is there a way to fix it?
- I adjusted it as best I can - although it should be noticed that it was like that for over 25 changes. Desdinova 20:27, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New Album Lineup
"It has been loosely confirmed that Michale Graves and Doyle will be returning for the 2007/2008 studio album." - any source on this? I don't find anything else via google that implies these 2 will be returning for the next cd.
they won't be returning. michale graves hates jerry only. doyle is embarrassed to play with the misfits and plus he has his own band now.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.172.83.60 (talk • contribs)
- You have to cite sources. As long as you cite someone saying that, its fine. Thanks, Brusegadi 15:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
cite the sources saying they are coming back. go ahead, do it.
[edit] Punk metal?
Do you think the Misfits are punk metal. They are kind of like a heavy metal-hardcore punk fusion. Thundermaster367 12:44, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- They are in no way a metalcore band. I don't listen to them too much, but I know a lot about music genres, and I'd say that plain punk rock would be appropriate.RdCrestdBreegull (talk) 21:47, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Punk metal?
Do you think the Misfits are punk metal. They are kind of like a heavy metal-hardcore punk fusion. Thundermaster367 12:44, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Stillborn Monster Babies.gif
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[edit] discography/ songs rereleased
it seems many rare Misfits songs are rereleased and its hard to tell how to know to get all the songs, so i'm going to make an effort to note if songs on cds/compilations/box set were previously released/later released on something else or if they are exclusive to the release and the version is exclusive to the release. --AlexOvShaolin 22:55, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
- hmmm think i'm going to make a List of songs by The Misfits to help solve this issue. --AlexOvShaolin 23:30, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Vh1
Ok, i know what there website says, but the Misfits were not on the 100 greatest artist of hard rock. The site is often contradictory to what the actual program says. If you would actually watch the show, youd see it was Danzig, and not the Misfits. If anyone else has actually seen the show and is not just going off a website itd be pretty damn obvious. Can i get some support here?♠♦Д narchistPig♥♣ (talk) 01:51, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Image
I think this article really needs an image of the band.......somebody please put a fair use image in this article.....it is absolutely NECEESSARY!......and I will try to make this article better...clean it of biased setences or evidences of POV! There is some controversial facts in this band but I will not lean towards one side or other...somewhere in the middle there is the virtue...--Horror Punk Ed22 (talk) 19:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
