Talk:Minutes to Midnight (album)

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[edit] Valentine's Day and The Little Things Give You Away

In these two songs, I can not hear any vinyl scratchings, they sound more like computer/soundboard generated sounds. Can anyone hear any scratching?

Bart-16 08:13, 8 October 2007 (UTC) Bart-16

[edit] Genre Dispute

Some IPs, mostly 75.152.196.153, are adding nu/alt metal and rapcore as genres. But only 3 songs on this album are even a little bit metal and only one is rapcore. Alternative rock definitely suits this album as many of the songs are softer songs. If this vandalism of the genres does not stop, this page should be semi-protected. Tim Y (talk) 18:16, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I personaly think alternative metal should be used as a second genre. Although this album is mainly based with alt rock and ballads, Linkin Park's heavier side is still present on a few songs and should be noted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.108.252.174 (talk) 02:16, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

There are only 3 songs that can be classified as alt metal. This makes up only a small portion of the album. Also, the heavier songs seem to have more of a punk rock influence in them than metal. Alternative rock is the best way to describe the album as a whole and only the most general genres are supposed to be listed in the infobox. The subgenres and influences are already discussed in the article. Therefore, there is no need to list any more genres in the infobox. Timmehcontribs 02:29, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Admin Please Help

An ip, namely 87.167.221.5 (the first time) and 87.167.212.63 which are both the same person is changing the genres of this article and several other Linkin Park song and album articles. They keep separating the genres by line breaks and capitalizing the second words in genres. This needs to be stopped because it takes much time to revert these edits. Either the ip and any related ips need to be blocked or all these pages need to be semi-protected. Here are some examples of what this person has done --- Minutes to Midnight (album), Minutes to Midnight again, Given Up, Leave Out All the Rest, Bleed It Out, Shadow of the Day. This is the second time he has done this after I warned him and even gave him a link to the policy page. In one of his latest edit summaries on Minutes to Midnight he said "ähhh make it you angry when the r in rock is big?" He definitely knew it is against policy, but he continued changing them. This needs to be stopped immediately and i would really appreciate it if an admin responded and helped me out a little. Thanks. Tim Y (talk) 21:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible Plagarism?

I was listening to "Camisado" by Panic! at the Disco and when it got to around 1:11, I thought "This part sounds really familiar..." and after a bit of thinking I had realized that I had heard a "solo" almost exactly like it - in "In Pieces".

Hear for yourself:

"Camisado" vs "In Pieces": Guitar Solo Comparison Image:CIPcomparison.ogg

Comparison of guitar solos from "Camisado" by Panic! at the Disco and "In Pieces" by Linkin Park — 353 KB
Problems listening to the file? See media help.

Should there be a section on this? They sound almost exactly the same! --ToyoWolf 10:40, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

They do but lots of solos sound like that. Even dates back to Guns N Roses. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikhil557 (talk • contribs) 17:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mistake is article

The first sentence itself is wrong. United World Chart does not issue certifications. It just says that the album has sold 4 million + albums. It says its 2 times Platinum, but it does not CERTIFY it, line RIAA does. Please make the changes. Indianescence 10:58, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In Between

I don't know if I'm seeing things, but has anyone read an error? First, under "sound", the article reads:

This is their first album where Mike Shinoda sings lead vocals for a full length track ("In Between"), rather than rapping.

Later:

In addition to his rapping on "Hands Held High", which features background vocals from the entire band (the "men's choir" singing "Amen" is actually each member of the band), he also sings the lead vocals for "In Between".

Anyone notice something familiar about Mike's lead vocals?Bentu (talk) 23:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. ╦ﺇ₥₥€Ԋ (talk) 03:41, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
What do you mean, fixed? It's still there! Bentu (talk) 17:05, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Um...no it isn't. At least its not repeating basically the exact same thing. If you don't like it, change it yourself. That's what you should've done in the first place instead of asking others to do it for you. ╦ﺇ₥₥€Ԋ (talk) 22:29, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Why I didn't change it is because I didn't know which part to delete, or if there was a reason that it was repeated. Bentu (talk) 04:27, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
I don't think there would be a reason to repeat it. You could try rewording the whole section if you have the time. I don't really feel like doing it right now. ╦ﺇ₥₥€Ԋ (talk) 04:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Alright. Fixed. Bentu (talk) 06:17, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] That album SUC....

this album can be labeled as EMO or worst INDIEot........... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.93.125.223 (talk) 01:43, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

EMO?!?! Are you kidding? Now everyone wants to label every single band out there emo. According to the general population, if they're rock, they're emo. This is ridiculous. I'm sick of it. The world is full of idiots. ╦ﺇ₥₥€Ԋ (talk) 01:55, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Emo is like emotionally charged punk that teens relate to. People need to stop being ignorant and actually see what the lyrics are about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikhil557 (talk • contribs) 17:22, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

BURN!!! Bentu 02:33, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source code error??

Under the track listing in one of the paragraphs there are 5 edit links in a row in the middle of a quotation. Can someone fix this because I can't find anything wrong in the code and I have no idea how this happened. I'm thinking maybe the audio samples caused it, but I have no idea how to fix it other than removing the audio samples altogether. ╦ﺇ₥₥€Ԋ(talk/contribs) 21:04, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I am an idiot who does not know proper formatting and isn't gonna look it up for one correction so deal with it. Someone clearly made a huge gaff under the section Leak. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.104.191.22 (talk • contribs)
Don't tell me to "deal with it". I just said I didn't know how to fix it (though I eventually figured it out). If you don't have anything to contribute, please do not comment. But, thanks for the leak problem notice anyway. ╦ﺇ₥₥€Ԋ(talk/contribs) 01:20, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reception

What happened to the reception part of the article? Titan50 (talk) 11:52, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alternative & Punk

According to the CD itself the genre of this album is Alternative & Punk, so it should be changed in the genre section. Moersleuteltje (talk) 21:43, 8 February 2008 (UTC) Moersleuteltje

No, it should not be changed. I think it is already mentioned in the appropriate section of the article. However, it should not be in the infobox because Wikipedia relies on third party sources, and the official CD is a first party source. Please see WP:RS for more information. Timmeh! 00:03, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Given Up video

Hasn't this already been released? I've seen a live video on YouTube for a couple weeks now unless it's fake. Any info on this? The Given Up Video premiered on March 3,2008 and is on Linkin Park's Youtube go to the given up page for moreSteve2497 (talk) 22:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Timmeh! 15:39, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reception

What happned to the reception part of the article? Titan50 (talk) 09:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

The section has been restored. I tracked down the diff when the section was vandalized. In the subsequent edit, it was removed entirely by an unsuspecting IP. --Pwnage8 (talk) 23:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] In Pieces As A Single

Has In Pieces actually been confirmed a single? I've seen anywhere saying its a single and theres no reference. —Preceding I know Leave out all the rest is the next single. At first they said Little Things Give You Away then In Pieces But they only have 5 so I don't know Steve2497 (talk) 22:46, 3 April 2008 (UTC) unsigned comment added by 121.90.85.232 (talk) 04:42, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Iron Maiden reference

The font on the cover seems to be an Iron Maiden reference, particularly in light of the album title (similar to Two Minutes to Midnight) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.182.46 (talk) 22:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Linkin Park

Have any of you heared about the Wikipedia:WikiProject Linkin Park --Freedom (song) (talk) 20:18, 24 April 2008 (UTC).

[edit] Discussion of alternative rock as a genre for Linkin Park

In the aim of establishing a Wiki-wide consensus as to whether or not Linkin Park is alternative rock, please visit and add to the discussion here. WesleyDodds (talk) 06:08, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

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