Talk:Ministry of Justice (United Kingdom)

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Contents 1 Image 2 Are we sure it'll be headed by an MP? 3 Merging 4 Remit 5 Why Ministry?

[edit] Image

Since this is a new ministry, I think it might be a good idea to integrate its new logo/emblem into the article, so that people recognise it. The image is availible here: http://www.justice.gov.uk/images/logo.jpg The logo is Crown Copyright Ron Barker 10:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Are we sure it'll be headed by an MP?

There's nothing on this BBC News page to indicate that the Lord Chancellor is going to step down from heading the Ministry any time soon. 86.149.2.48 03:04, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

And according to Downing Street, Lord Falconer is now Secretary of State for Justice: [1] 149.170.39.34 09:22, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merging

No way, all the other articles on former government departments are kept and this should be no different. Guydrury 20:06, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

It's decided on a case-by-case basis. We don't have an article about the ODPM, for example, and that lasted longer than the short-lived Department of Constitutional Affairs. On the other hand, it's a big enough redistribution of functions that merging isn't necessarily useful, but, case-by-case. 83.146.2.234 11:08, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I have removed the merge notices. – Kaihsu 11:19, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

And someone else has put them back. Merger of these articles would be unhelpful, and probably impossible since the two departments have/had vastly different functions. You'd probably have to merge Home Office in as well to make any sense of it! Emeraude 16:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

The articles should be merged the only difference in functions is that the Ministry of Justice took over some functions from the home office it still retains all the responsiblities of the Department for Constitutional Affairs --Barryob Vigeur de dessus 02:25, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

The Ministry encompasses a large number of departments. See: WikiCrimeLine Ministry of Justice Ron Barker 10:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

They should not be merged - the DCA undertook different functions and as such is a different department from the Ministry of Justice. The MoJ is a successor to the DCA, not the same Hammersfan 11/09/07, 11.22 BST —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hammersfan (talk • contribs) 22:23, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

They should most certainly not be merged. Each department merits an article in its own right. Merging them can only make it harder to give a clear account of the important changes to a centuries old system reflected in each reorganisation. Jamie Mercer 23:32, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Remit

Is there no residual constitutional-affairs function that are UK-wide, not just England and Wales? – Kaihsu 09:53, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

There are indeed. one rather big function is that it handles relations between the devolved Scottish administration and the UK government. It also administers tribunals UK-wide, and has various random other UK-wide functions, such as human rights and electoral reform. 83.146.2.234 10:46, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I have made this clear in the Remit section. – Kaihsu 11:17, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

"Beyond these, it does not have responsibility for criminal justice, courts, prisons or probation in either Scotland or Northern Ireland, but only in England and Wales"

This is wrong isn't it? It does have responsibility for courts etc --Quintusflaccus 07:54, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why Ministry?

Most departments are called just that. The only thing I can think of is a potential confusion with the US Dept of Justice, but that doesn't stop the two countries sharing other Cabinet job titles. 86.132.141.139 (talk) 01:30, 24 February 2008 (UTC)