Talk:Miloš Obilić

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I'm wondering about the name of this article. Is Milosh Obilich correct? As the š letter is replaced by sh (is it impossible to incorporate an š in the name of the article?) should not ch become č? (When I changed the text I spelled Miloš Obilic.) --The Phoenix 16:50, 21 Oct 2003 (UTC)

This is one of older articles about Serbs. There are two ways to transcribe Cyrillic letters from Serbian to English, one directly and the other through Croatian Latin script, and this article uses the first one; actually, I think that first is more correct, but the other one is more used. I think that š could be used in an article title but don't think it should because of several reasons, and ch should become ć, I'll change it. Nikola 08:31, 22 Oct 2003 (UTC)
According to turkish records Murad I was killed by Milos Obilic (or even another maybe albenian or serbian, that even name of that person have discussion) after the battle and defeat of Serbs, while the sultan was looking upon to injured soldiers from two side and one of them rushed sultan and cowardly assasinated him. But slavs wishes a hero therefore probably faked up this story. Also I remember some europian sources tells similar to turkish sources. mithaturk
After all those centuries passed after the event, we can't decide if Obilic was a heroic figure of Christianity or a coward who faked the Ottoman Sultan and stabbed him (in many cultures, "stabbing" of this kind is seen as the most un-chivalric way of killing your enemy). The only conclusion that we can reach is that Obilic's move didn't change the outcome of the war for the Serbs. Also, just like Hitler and his generals hopelessly celebrated the death of President Roosevelt back in 1945, the death of Murad Hüdavendigar didn't effect the power balances in the regional politics, which was highly dependent on military campaigns back in the day, because Bayezid the Thunderbolt replaced his father immediately, as it happened in United States when the vice president Truman became the president and Allies decisively defeated the Third Reich. Deliogul (talk) 21:08, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Order of the Dragon of St. George

If that is going to redirect here, shouldn't you actually write about them? Just a thought. Also, you might want to make allowances for people who spell out Saint, or forget the period, maybe have all of those redirect to St. so that when you get around to actually making it you only need to change one article redirect, and if St. is the major spelling the other two are clearly subordinate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 09:41, 3 March 2008 (UTC)