Talk:Mille-feuille

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[edit] Sorry

I'm sorry to my minor edit.--鰍和浦　博夫 13:09, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merged discussion

Start of discussion merged from Talk:Napoleon (pastry)

[edit] Etymology

According to List of misleading food names, "Napoleons are not named after Napoleon Bonaparte, but after Naples." 00:01, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Hard to tell... I can attest that this item is known in France as a mille-feuilles, possibly as a direct translation of Italian millefoglie, as the origin of the pastry is unclear. But any association of this cake with Napoleon or Naples is not widespread in France. --Svartalf 13:16, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

But in other hand in my country (Bulgaria) this cake is known as 'Napoleon'.

End of discussion merged from Talk:Napoleon (pastry)

[edit] Milhojas

About the Spanish "Milhojas", check for example this link: http://canales.laverdad.es/gastronomia/receta020205c.html

[edit] Comments from the merged "Vanilla slice" article

"Often referred to as 'Snot Block'"? I've never heard it called that... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.162.109.107 (talk • contribs)

I have. Cnwb 11:40, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Though it is not a common or frequent topic of my conversation, on rare occasions where I've discussed this item, I have heard people use the term snot block, including once at least 14 years ago. Asa01 07:47, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

You're not from Melbourne are you? I've asked around and everyone that's heard of it grew up in Melbourne. Phmag 01:08, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article name

Mille-feuille only gets half the number of Google hits that Millefeuille does - shouldn't the article be moved to Millefeuille (currently a redirect) to reflect the more common usage? 86.136.168.108 11:59, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't really matter, but... Millefeuille is about 60% more popular on Google than mille-feuille, but this isn't very meaningful -- there are all sorts of reasons that one spelling might be more popular on the Web. And if you include the plurals, the mille-feuille form is 16% more popular than the millefeuille form. Of course, Google counts "mille feuille" (two words) in with "mille-feuille" (hyphen). They're close enough that any one is fine... --Macrakis 13:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I would argue that an Australian "Vanilla Slice" is not the same as a mille-feuille. Mille-feuilles cn coontain multiple altenate layers of custar an pastry, whereas a vanilla slice contains only one layer of vanilla custard.

As for the nickname "snot blocks", when I was searching for the entry for vanilla slices, my boyfriend suggested I should try "snot blocks" instead - I hadn't heard the term before. (unsigned comment by anonymous User:203.214.108.9 2007-05-21T11:52:56 -- please sign your posts on talk pages)

I've added this information as follows:

In the UK and the Commonwealth, mille-feuille is known as vanilla slice or cream slice, and usually has only a top and bottom pastry layer.

I think that covers this case. Next time, you can fix this yourself.... --Macrakis 15:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I would like to point out that in Canada where I live here, we call it Napoleon Cake, never heard of Vanilla slice. Also, I believe "There is no evidence to connect the pastry to the emperor himself." is incorrect, I always understood that it was called that because he introduced it to much of Eastern Europe during his whole conquest thing, the Alternative Names list seems to support this idea as many of the eastern nations he invaded call it Napoleon cake. "Original research" on my part of course, I actually came here to find out why it was called Napoleon cake and I really don't care enough to look farther, might wanna put up a Napoleon Cake redirect to here, someone who knows how. Please and thanks. (unsigned comment by User:69.17.155.35 2007-06-04T03:36:29)
Thanks for the information on Canadian usage -- so it is "Napoleon cake" (even though it contains no cake) and not just "Napoleon" as in the US? As for the Napolean story, the pastry itself existed before Napoleon -- it is said that La Varenne invented it and Careme perfected it, but I have not been able to find good sources for this yet (so it is not in the article). It is possible that the name became attached to it because of Napoleon's conquests, but without evidence, there's not much to say, is there? --Macrakis 04:05, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merger with Cream/Vanilla Slice

Cream Slice and Vanilla Slice appear to be regional variants of the name, but essentially the same food. Of course, there are variants of various kinds, but I believe they can best be handled in a unified article. Comments? --Macrakis 15:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Napoleon Cake split

While mille-feuilles come in many forms in different parts of the world, I really don't think that Australian Napoleon Cake belongs in this article. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's essentially just a slice of cake with normal iceing, right? It may very well be a variant of a mille-feuille, but I think that the core characteristic of any variation of this pastry is the presence of dozens of layered, paper-thin sheets that form its body. So if we're talking about a different dish, even one inspired by the mille-feuille, I think a fork would be best. Comments? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zantastik (talk • contribs) 20:41, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

It does seem very different but it also does contain the layered paper thin sheets of pastry as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.94.229.169 (talk) 05:29, 8 November 2007 (UTC)