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[edit] An Even-Handed Witch Hunt

who wrote:

"Propoganda supporting this rediculous labor dispute can be found at http://midoriandfriends.typepad.com/strike/"

This does not belong in an encylopedia, especially not phrased that way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.231.137.190 (talk • contribs) 07:51, 14 March 2006 Perhaps confusingly, there is also a rvn by User:71.244.94.127 and a counter-rvn by User:Mindmatrix in this talk page's history for this text.

  • Some (fairly dreary) background:
  1. 4 (clumsy) edits by User:67.100.145.130 (13 total edits, all to Midori Goto, 10 on 2006 Feb 16 and 3 more in two sessions abt 3 wks later) added some partly unencyclopedic & arguably PoV language ("union-busting", "happily", assertions of fact made in the tone of arguments but w/o sufficient detail to establish their relevance), and also removed the entire "==External links==" section. These spanned 5 minutes. The first three of these carried the default summary for edits on that section (apparently the editor initially intended to place a 'graph just above it, at the end of the only prose section), while the last (necessarily, with the only heading and the text below it removed, a whole-page edit) was summarized with the single char "1". The last edit of the four also placed the new material as the 3rd sentence of the article (apparently as originally contemplated, since the 1st edit duplicated the 2nd sentence), resulting in there being, in the 1st 2 'graphs, 5 characters about the strike issues for every 4 older characters.
  2. User:CClio333, 2 minutes after the 4th edit and 3 after the destruction of the final section, gave the summary "replaced deleted external links section" and in fact reverted the IP's full session of 4 edits. (This is IMO plausibly the result of viewing only the third edit's changes, whose only effect was replacing the edited section with precisely "asdf", and selecting the "rollback" lk next to it. I have not, however, ever had occasion to test whether this effect is what the server would do.)
  3. 16 minutes after the rvn, the same IP did the first of 6 saves over 20 minutes, restoring the reverted prose, appending 5 new sentences at the end of the prose portion, and placing the lk referenced by the contributor who preceded me once in-line in the prose and once under the (previously restored) ext-refs. The new last sentence of the article read
    It is a shame that a world famous musician such as Midori would risk her reputation to keep a few thousand dollars from 25 struggling music teachers.
  4. Abt 2 days later, an IP (with one edit from before the strike-related edits) removed that final sentence as "clear editorial statements".
  5. After abt 2 weeks more, an IP (with no previous edits & none since) removed the 2nd identical ext lk.
  6. After another two days, User:Thinkingoutloud made the first 3 of their 5 edits to date (all 5 in the accompanying article). These removed all of the original IP's remaining prose except for the neutral introductory sentence of the second prose passage, replaced the rest of the prose with data (more clearly relevant, despite asserting "benefits" without any qualification that would make the information meaningful) on the other side of the controversy, and introduced the lk provided by the original IP with the PoV material complained about above. (So the answer to the "who wrote" question asked above is "User:Thinkingoutloud".)
  7. Two cycles of more-or-less revert-warring followed, with each editor averaging about 2-3 days response time. ToL practiced straight reversion; the IP made minor variations, the most positive of which was, in restoring the duplicate ext lk, it changing the piping on it to wording the to suggest (presumably accurately) that its PoV is the one the IP was advocating for.
  8. Two more IPs (total of two WP edits each to date) removed in stages what ToL's last rvn left. (One of them was the complaining IP above, who removed what they complained abt & a bit more, and the other is also the IP who removed the complaint from this talk page -- perhaps seeing the matter as closed & the complaint obsolete.)
--Jerzy•t 22:38, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

The merge suggestion is made more difficult since the other page now redirects here. Someone might want to pick up some of the information at this revision and incorporate it here.
--John (Jwy) 16:46, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

An editor removed the merge-from tag summarizing
remove merge proposal, which has been executed
but there is no sign of that meaning more than "if you ask for the one you'll get the other". I'll set up a mechanism for getting the content done via collaborative editing, and i'll do the history merge.


--Jerzy•t 22:38, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Work in progress on merge of "Life of midori goto"

Talk:Midori Gotō/Content Merge from LoMG