Talk:Mid-American Conference

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[edit] Realignment

Now that Marshall and UCF are heading to greener pastures in Conference USA, what will the new alignment of the two divisions will look like next year?

Bowling Green is shifting to the East Division. I would have preferred they move Eastern Michigan and Toledo to the East, and bump Miami of Ohio to the West. Also, with Temple joining now, I imagine they're going to want to find another member to get to 14 schools again, at least before 2007. Note: the league uses inconsistent terminology. The schools that are one-sport members are described as "affiliate" members, presumably because they are not all-sports members, but in the press release Temple is described as an "affiliate" member for the next two years while they're playing a partial schedule, and then they'll become a "full" football-only member. This is inconsistent and it is why I chose to describe them as having "associate" membership in the league for the next two years. --AppleFan84

You "chose"? It should go with the factual "affiliate" title for football, as that is what the May 2005 contract describes Temple's status as. I've cleaned up the divisional list, removing Marshall, and placing Bowling Green back East. IN any event, it really doesn't matter at Wiki what your "preferred" line-up would have been. Bowling Green was in the East when the MAC originally went to divisions. Although it's an East/West divisional alignment in nomenclature, there is also a North/South divide. The East schools are generally also more southerly... so Bowling Green is much more logically in the East than Toledo or Eastern Michigan... The divisions in MAC are the most cost-efficient from a travel POV... which is a fairly NPOV, the whole point of Wiki'ing things.... --Sturmde 18:29, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I chose. I'm not privy to the contract that they signed, so for all I know the use of the word "affiliate" in the press release is due to an oversight by a volunteer intern in the PR department that nobody caught. I also don't think it is necessary to chastize me for offering my own opinion as to how the league ought to have aligned on a page explicitly designed for discussion that is not overburdened with talk about its parent article. As to the merits of your discussion of the East vs. West schools, I think that was truer when UCF and Marshall were both members, but now that they are gone it doesn't seem to me to be the case. Buffalo is the northernmost league school and they are in the East Division, at any rate. And, to me, it seems more cost-efficient for Toledo and Eastern Michigan to cut across Ontario to Buffalo than it does for them to travel out to Northern Illinois. It is not of that much concern since the league will almost certainly try to add another member by 2007, which could disrupt the alignment once again, although even if it is a school to the West I personally feel the league is better served with Miami in the West and shuffling around whatever marginal West school you want into the East to compensate for their departure. If the league adds a 14th school and it is in the East Division, they will have to bump one of the marginal East schools into the West anyways.

[edit] Logo Gallery

There's a big debate over using a school's logo as a gallery on conference articles Wikipedia_talk:Logos#Clarification_on_use_of_sports_team_logos. If it turns out that the gallery can stay, then I think my change should be reverted. In it's current state without the gallery, I think the merge I made makes more sense. --X96lee15 13:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)