Talk:Microsoft Most Valuable Professional
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Is an advert, and for Microsoft at that. Boo! Meelar 02:32, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. It's less of an advert now. Lupin 09:10, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Keep because of cultural aspects AlainV 16:05, 2004 Mar 28 (UTC)
- Delete: It's only an ad and not encyclopedic. Administrator 19:14, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. I'm an MVP, and it's a tight-knit group with its own community. Many MVPs are more loyal to their product than to the company which produces it...--SarekOfVulcan 06:39, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. --pne 16:21, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. We don't need an article for every corporate masturbation practice, MS or no. Jeeves 22:54, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. MVPs are as relevant a class of person in technical forums as moderators or trolls, and we have pages on both of those.
- Keep. MVPs are not Microsoft employees or shills but a legitimate group of people that provide technical help for free and that Microsoft has recognized as knowledgeable. The award gets them access to Microsoft people, therefore we as MVPs are also able to let MS know about community's problems or dissatisfaction with their products.
What's with the "blog of the one famous MVP?" I've never heard of the guy, and the majority of MVPs have blogs so I fail to see why he's getting a free link and they're not.
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[edit] Tamar Granor quote
It was posted with her permission, btw. The URL is http://www.universalthread.com/wconnect/wc.dll?2,15,711310, but it only works if you're logged in to the UT at the time. Maybe it could be cited as Universal Thread Message ID 711310? I'm not sure of the best way to do this.
[edit] Cancellation of MVPs incident
To help reduce the feeling that this is an ad, the attempted cancellation of the MVP designation should be mentioned.
Don't have time right now to do it myself. Mark Hurd 18:14, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] MVP's are not Volunteers
As a friendly contradiction, it is based on my understanding that being an MVP has it's benefits that are provided at a cost by Microsoft [1]. Therefore it is difficult to believe that the MVP program is comprised of volunteers. So I ask, "Isn't volunteering an act provided free of charge and without expectations other than assiting others in need [2]?" So then another question might be, "What is the bottom line for Microsoft for maintaining an MVP program? Is the MVP program a not for profit organization and the costs are declared as tax free contributions? Or is the MVP program funded as the costs of marketing"? Unfortunately, it has been my experience that the program is comprised of some Microsoft staff members and some MVP's, eg, associates of the MVP program, who lack a fundemental understanding for the meanings of professional [3], public relations [4] and customer service of its product line [5]. THe program could very well be a costly mistake again for Microsoft[6][7] It is my opinion that a true professional who volunteers his or her valuable time to help others do not need or ask for compensation in any form [8].Bmunguia 20:11, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
- There are no Microsoft Staff members in the MVP program. In fact if an MVP gets hired at Microsoft, which does happen from time to time, they lose their MVP status. MVPs do not request any sort of compensation but are provided with certain materials such as access to beta programs, access to Microsoft staff as well as typically some sort of annual gift. The annual gift tends to take the form of an MVP logo'd backpack or perhaps a flash drive. There is no requirement for MVPs to promote or advocate for Microsoft and no restriction on what other companies or products MVPs can support. The only requirement is that they have to have been judged, in the prior year, to have provided valuable contribution to the user community in their awarded product area. ---B- 13:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
MVP is an award. Period. Nobody "asks for compensation". There is no request or "asking" and there is no compensation. All there is, is an award for past performance as a helper to the community of users of Microsoft's products. As part of the award, MVPs get access to beta programs, advanced product information (under NDA), and in many cases access to the developers of Microsoft's products. Alexf(t/c) 23:36, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Voluble vs Valuable
Is there a cite to support this "rumor"? I've been an MVP for over a decade and never heard any such thing. ---B- 00:48, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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- I can't find a reference to it at the moment, unfortunately. As Alex knows, I'm a former MVP myself, so I'm not making this up out of whole cloth: I just don't know where I heard it. Alex, Bschorr, do you want to check on the mvp.private groups to see if anyone has a ref?--SarekOfVulcan 17:10, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
