Talk:MewithoutYou

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[edit] Old/Unsigned Posts

Changed 'singer Aaron Weiss' to 'vocalist Aaron Weiss' as in the same paragraph is the contradictory phrase '...dominated by Weiss, who, rather than singing, talks in dramatic, varied tones and pitches.' Stu57 01:23, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused as to the proper name for this band -- usages found on the web include Me Without You, Mewithoutyou, MeWithoutYou, etc. This article should be under whatever the "official" name of the band is with redirects from the other alternatives.

redirects added at the following points:

Mewithoutyou MeWithoutYou Me without you Me Without You Me without You 24.26.130.93 20:54, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

An explanation as to why the band name is this way would be a nice addition to the article. Jgm 21:02, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Add dates (year of formation, year of album) to give more context. ike9898 22:41, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

i think the band capitalized the 'y' in 'you' to empisize the the meaning of the name and the idea of being with out you. also the lower case 'm' might be low self esteem or something to degrade them selfs or humble them selfs. also i think because of the band's religous beliefs that the 'you' they refer to is God. all this is threoy and i didn't want to put it on the page. thanks for the input.

— Yes, the reason for the name mewithoutYou is religious, 'me' being us and the You being God. I have read magazine interviews with the band where they have explained the name, and its links to how Aaron feels that living life without involving God in your decisions is futile. However, I haven't looked for such articles on the web and I'm at work just now. And it is mewithoutYou.

Also, I edited the page to add a little bit about Inshullah.

[edit] Growth

mewithoutYou has definately seen major growth between their two major releases ([A-->B] Life and Catch For Us the Foxes); not only in the guitar and lyrics, but in the band's sound and completeness.

Case and point: Songs on [A-->B] Life are heavier (ie. more chords and intense drumming) and sloppier (for lack of a better term) (main point being the semi-random drumming and lose rhythm in the end of "The Cure For Pain"); whereas songs on Catch For Us the Foxes generally have more melodies and harmonies.


mewithoutYou is the official band name. I was reading interviews of Aaron Weiss where he confirmed the origin of the band name. The lowercase "me" is considered what life is like without the uppercase "You." The "me" would be considered any person, and the "You" considered as God. Thus, the person (me) is small, meek, and nothing without God (You). I cannot find this interview, because I viewed it only a long time ago. I will try and search the web for it and confirm this when I've found the link.

--Pencap 00:44, 3 December 2006 (UTC) Mark Phillips

[edit] The Operation

Does anybody know anything about former mewithoutYou? if anyone has heard anything by The Operation, please share it!


[edit] New content, awful organization

So the article gained a lot of content about the formation of the band, but it's not well formatted. I'll try to clean it up this week. Also I'm removing "Some of the band's new, unreleased material is available for listening through the mewithoutYou myspace page" because I visited their myspace page, and found nothing unreleased, only songs from the new album.

[edit] Label

Post-hardcore/Indie? I don't think so. Although this is one of the genres chosen on their Purevolume, I still think it's an incorrect label. While they are on the same record label as many Post-Hardcore bands, these guys are not Post-Hardcore. Their description on Myspace is just "indie," which I think would suffice. Do you think shortening it to this would be more appropriate?

I think the label is fine. Perhaps it isn't the most accurate description, but their sound is rather varied. The post-hardcore genre definetely suits the first album, where indie is fitting for the two most recent. I vote for leaving the post-hardcore as is.63.3.7.130 05:36, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk page

This talk page needs a lot of help. There are multiple comments with no dates/signatures near the top. If it's fine with everyone, i will put them all under a new content title named "Old/Unsigned" posts. Radar123 01:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Live Photograph

The concert photograph by the "Members" section is seems unnessesary and distracting. For one thing, it is quite outdated and it is rare to see live photos of bands on wikipedia (especially smaller bands). I won't delete the photo since I'm not a jerk, but I would sincerely recommend the photographer take it down. Radar123 01:27, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chripster?

Seriously. This phrase has no supporting evidence and the word essentially no meaning. Here is the phrase.

MewithoutYou has come to be known as one of the leading bands in the Chripster scene.

I'm going to delete it. Feel free to add a sentence that will make more sense to the beginning of the paragraph. Radar123 20:27, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Chris Kleinberg

Earlier today I added Chris back into the current lineup and removed him from the 'former members' list. Someone else has now re-edited him back out of the current lineup and back into the former members list.

If you look at mewithoutYou's myspace page, he is still listed as a member. Likewise for their Purevolume. Also, I just saw then play last Friday and Chris was there.

So all signs point to Chris still being in the band. Now, if the other editor has some sort of tie with the band, maybe he/she is a friend of the band and is privy to closer information, okay that's fine. But perhaps we should wait until that information is made official before we portray it as fact here? The more likely scenario is that some fellow heard a rumour and is now considering it fact. Either way we should go with the most current and most official information at hand. 74.101.236.85 03:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I will leave it as is until the official announcment is made. =/ And if you were referring to the show at Cornerstone IL, that was his last one.
Someone else has added this too, again I think we should wait until an official announcement. 67.70.163.105 00:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Is it safe to say this rumour is dead? They're currently on tour again and no announcement has been made. 67.70.163.105 18:40, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


There is no need for 'official announcements.' He is listed that he is in the band, but is not touring for personal reasons. Is there a reference for him not being in the band? Because according to the myspace page he is. i'm not going to change it, but it should be changed. I'll leave it up to someone who edits this page more often and holds more connection.

[edit] Band philosophy

I believe that there should be some content regarding the themes that run in mewithoutYou music. Aaron Weiss can be found speaking about unity in the church, living in suburban America, money and war quiet oftenly. We need to add a section about these themes. Political Stances? Philosophy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flofor15 (talk • contribs) 19:21, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

That would belong on a page concerning Aaron Weiss' personal beliefs more then that of a collective of five individuals, who all hold individual ideas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.229.136.93 (talk) 02:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

I think the photo on the page should be changed to one of the entire band, rather than just one of Aaron. I suggest one of the promo shots from their myspace page or something. Remember there are 4 other guys in the band; it's "mewithoutYou" not "Aaron Weiss and mewithoutYou". Bm5481 (talk) 13:54, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Check out WP:NONFREE. Wikipedia strongly discourages using non-free images to illustrate an article, especially where a free image is possible to obtain. Promo pictures are under the copyright of the original photographer, and as such are non-free. If you, however, were able to take a picture of the whole band yourself and release it under GNU or similar, that would definitely be better than an image solely of Aaron Weiss. Jpers36 (talk) 13:58, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] drummer

I heard somewhere that their drummer was autistic, has anyone else heard this? Saksjn (talk) 17:43, 1 June 2008 (UTC)