Talk:Method of loci
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I am doing a project on the Loci Method and I would like a picture? {Rebecca Torres Febuary 24,2007}
[edit] PToE
I remember reading or watching something where a person used the Periodic Table of Elements and associated objects or words to specific elements or their given atomic weight (the entire table was memorized forehand). Say someone needs to remember a telephone number or address, they just associat the numbers to the element weight. Ex. Fluorine Hydrogen Hydrogen would be “911”.
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[edit] Art of Memory
I am rather disappointed that teh Artof memory has een reduced to the Method of Loci, which is clearly one element of it. We also have visual alphabets, etc, etc. I feel we need a separate art of memory page with a section on the psychology page, and with a method Loci section linking to this as the main article. What do otehrs think?Harrypotter 08:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] From Talk:Mnemonic room system
I am copying the below info from the talk page of Mnemonic room system as I am in the process of redirected it. --AbsolutDan (talk) 00:46, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Is this the same as the LOCI method? Aliby22 21:36, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- It is. The article Method of loci explains it sufficiently, so this one might be removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HermannSoergel (talk • contribs) 13:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
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- I am redirecting Mnemonic room system to Method of loci per the above information and the fact that the m.r.s. article has zero sources. --AbsolutDan (talk) 00:44, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
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- A mnemonic room system, or Roman room method, is a method of remembering items using a description of a room, based on creating an association between the item and the room. For example, if one wished to remember the items (dog, envelope, thirteen, wool, window), one could visualise a room, possibly one's own sitting room, and associate a particular item with a particular object/spot/position within the room: imagine a rainbow coloured dog sitting astride the dining table with a ludicrously long rainbow coloured tail snaking through all the chairs; imagine the walls covered in vivid paintings which all have envelopes as their subject in some way, every single painting; imagine a television with the shape of the digits 1 and 3 side by side, which is unlucky as it means nothing can be clearly seen the screen, only some voice somebody saying "unlucky for some" over and over again; imagine the dog is eating a bowl of blues spaghetti, which, upon closer inspection, appears to be blue wool; imagine the floor is a window through which only mud is visible, and it keeps cracking every time weight is put on it - a useless window in a silly place.
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- In theory one should be able to retain these items in memory longer than learning them by rote due to the fact that it is not just a method for storing words (abstract symbols at best), but are storing information about the words, whether the information is real or imagined (which you can visualise). Using this method, which is really just another form of the mnemonic peg system, one can remember and subsequently recall information any order, according to how one wishes go through the room mentally. However, one is usually initially limited by a lack imagination/creativity, though with some practice one can easily come up with many ideas.
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- A similar mnemonic technique is the story system, which uses a story instead of a description of a room. For example, if one wished to remember the list above (dog, envelope, thirteen, wool, window), one could create a story such as "There once was a dog stuck in an envelope, who was mailed to an unlucky black cat playing with a ball of wool by the window". This technique is better for memorizing items in an ordered list; the room system is better for unordered lists (using the story system, to recall the item "thirteen", the entire list has to be traversed in the story).
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[edit] Art of Memory vs. Method of Loci
The title for this article is obscure and imprecise. The Art of Memory is a well known group of techniques. "Method of loci" on the other hand is a particularly clumsy way of referring to one aspect of the artificial memory and takes no account of other methods nor of the natural memory, which is properly the basis for the artificial memory. Can anyone explain why this title has been chosen? It seems indefensible. --Picatrix (talk) 01:48, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I have not gotten any reply to my previous posting. Because the "Method of Loci" is only one aspect of the art, I have removed the redirect to method of loci and posted a basic article on the Art of Memory. I plan to improve and expand it over the coming weeks. --Picatrix (talk) 12:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
