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Lets cut to the chase. Is Tiger a holder of the title " The Grand Slam of Golf". Please, a yes or no ansewr.


Should we really be using the current South African flag for players who won majors in the Apartheid era? It seems like something of a gloss-over.

It's just the current national flag. We don't use old versions of the stars and stripes. It is just there for recognition because it is neater than including the names of the countries. And it is prejudiced to assume that all white South Africans are implicated in apartheid. According to Wikipedia's Gary Player article he was awarded the Order of Ikhamanga (in gold) by President Mbeki of South Africa for excellence in golf and his contribution to non-racial sport in South Africa.
Someone changed them but I changed them back. Using the old flag for South Africa when we use the current U.S. flag for all periods (and it would look pretty silly not to) looks like some sort of political statement. Scranchuse 04:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Data, and lots of it

Anyone knowledgable: I have composed a MS Excel workbook that contains comprehensive data for all four majors. I have four spreadsheets that include the following columns: Year, Champion, Rd1, Rd2, 36 Holes, Rd3, 54 Holes, Rd4, 72 Holes, Playoff, Course, To Par, Par Total for each major. I would like to include the data on this page but I lack the knowledge and skill to get it done. Please let me know what to do.


      • Response to Data:

Until you get a better answer about incorporating it directly into the article, how about posting your Excel files on one of the many free download sites, and putting the link to them in the "external links" section of the article?

      • Dispute about an article assertion

The article says:"In recent years The Players Championship, which takes place two weeks before The Masters, has been begun to be boosted as "the fifth major" by elements of the American media. This has not been publicly encouraged by golf authorities, but the tournament does attract a similar strength of field."

I dispute that the golf authorities have not encouraged the idea of the Players becoming the "fifth major." Examples:

-- The PGA TOUR has designated winning the Players as the second highest priority for exemption, above even winning the Masters or British Open --- http://www.pgatour.com/players/pgatour-exempt/

-- The World Golf Rankings, on which no pro tour has more influence than the PGA, awards more mandatory points to the Players than any other non-major, including the WGCs --- http://www.officialworldgolfranking.com/about_us/default.sps?iType=425

-- The PGA of America awards its Player of the Year Trophy according to points earned by winning events, scoring average, money won, etc.  All tournaments victories earn ten points, except the four majors, and the Players. --- http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=2574712

-- It is fairly widely recognized that PGA commissioner Tim Finchem has been doing everything he can to get the Players recognized as the fifth major, and moving it to May is just the latest in a series --- http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/campbell/3141643.html

70.56.27.38 21:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Try to avoid being EITHER US- or UK-centric

Some of the wording used in this article to refer to the Open Championship and to the Masters has been a bit too UK-centric. In the first paragraph, I've revised the second link to "Open Championship," which someone had piped to read just "Open." I recognize that the name "U.S. Open" appears right before that, but to say "the Open" is too awkward and ambiguous in this sort of sentence, especially given that this article is not about a UK-centric topic. Likewise, later on someone said that the Open Championship is often "incorrectly" called the British Open outside the UK, but then the reference to the Masters often being called the "U.S. Masters" outside the USA did not use the corresponding "incorrectly." This sort of usage displays a bias that ought to be eliminated in a purported encyclopedia. Let's drop the "incorrectly" as to British Open; after all, let's be realistic--the term "Open" is used for a number of events, so it's not unreasonable for people outside the UK to put that clarifier there. (I am looking at a PGA Tour calendar on my wall that lists, for July, the British Open, the Canadian Open, and the Reno-Tahoe Open.) I know some Brits take umbrage when people say the "British Open," but it's not a term that's used out of spite. 1995hoo 17:02, 6 July 2007 (UTC)