Talk:Melanie Klein
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What is the view of modern scientific consensus toward Klein's work? -- Beland 06:08, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
I think your question is an excellent one Beland, and I am not absolutely sure of the scientific answer. However, as far as I know, Sigmund Freud's theories have had only a low level of acceptance from the scientific community. Furthermore, Melanie's Klein's theorising appears to be much inferior to Sigmund Freud's theories. For example, Klein's ideas about the 'depressive position' as a developmental phase in infancy appear to have very little scientific standing. 121.216.240.9 23:58, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] answer to Beland
I have to say I think this article is very bad, full of inaccuracies, devastatingly important ommissions, and a few somewhat unkind ad hominem comments from time to time. It is what gives Wikipedia a reputation for unreliability. I wish I had the time to do a proper article, as Klein's discoveries, and those of her followers, Rosenfeld, Bion, Segal and Joseph, become more and more mainstream within the psychoanalytic world. The answer to Beland's question on the current status of Kleinian thought in psychoanalysis is that it is slowly gaining adherence, especially as American ego-psychology has gone into crisis and American psychoanalysts are trying to find a way out, by looking to Europe and British psychoanalysis. Curiously Melanie Klein has always been well-regarded in South America, perhaps due to the Latin suspicion of North America. Kleinian ideas have also been extremely important in teir application to social science and organisational studies for more than half a century In short this article will not do.
Bob Hinshelwood 09:40, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
--Thanks for taking the time to respond, Bob. Obviously, you should be the one re-writing the article. We would hope that you have the time to that in the future. I will continue to edit and try to improve this as I have the time. Ed Basham —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddwin (talk • contribs) 13:28, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Non Answer to Beland
Beland asked about the current scientific status of Kleinian theory. A response that deals with Kleinian reception among American psychoanalysts hardly addresses this question unless one makes the huge and highly questionable assumption that American psychoanalysts themselves count as scientists.
Ken Gemes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.61.14.104 (talk) 12:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Specific error:
Bob Hinshelwood mentions multiple errors and inaccuracies, and I am not enough of a scholar to see all of them. But one which is struck me on reading the article, is the statement that "the Psychoanalytic Center of California is the other major training center that follows the work of Melanie Klein". Change this to read "is another major training center", and it would be accurate. Outside of Lacanianism, the Kleinian school is probably more influential in Continental Europe and at least parts of Latin America than any other (including traditional Freudianism, or 'Anna-Freudianism') - or so I have been led to gather.
- Joseph McCord lycodont@yahoo.com
[edit] Tidying up section currently headed "Literature"
I think the list of further reading at the end could do with a good tidy-up - the references are not in alphabetical order, for a start. Also, for the sake of convention, why is this called "Literature"? Would it not be more conventional to call it "Bibliography" or "Further Reading"? To distinguish sections headed "References" (containing articles and books cited in the main body) and "Further reading" (containing books on Klein in general), and also to put the internet resources in a new section headed "External links", would be an improvement to the presentation of this section. ACEOREVIVED 19:42, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
