Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-03-17 Jinxy

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Article: unknown State: Closed Requested By: Mister Jinxy Other Parties: Cyberjunkie Mediated By: —— Eagle101 Need help? Comments: One of the parties is unwilling to mediate. This is something that might be better off at WP:AN or WP:ANI.

Contents 1 Mediation Case: 207-03-17 Jinxy 1.1 Request Information 1.2 Mediator response 1.3 Compromise offers 1.4 Discussion

[edit] Mediation Case: 207-03-17 Jinxy

[edit] Request Information

Request made by: Mister Jinxy 11:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Where is the issue taking place?

I'm trying to add information about the word "Jinxy" - my namesake. An admin named cyberjunkie has taken it personally to taking down everything I write, even though what is presently up there is worse than what I've posted previously. See also entries for "Jinks", "Jinx" and "Mr. Jinks".

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jinks&diff=114422941&oldid=113534845

He has done this multiple times before.

For example, I wrote an entire article on the origin and use of the name "Mr. Jinxy" in Western culture. He redirected it towards a page with 3 lines on it citing it as a disambiguation.

After trying to reach a compromise with him, I left it alone for a while and then went back a month later and changed the article on "Jinks" to reflect what I had written.

He was completely unaware of this and the page remained up. However, he did something recently to indicate to me that he's stalking my user page.

Regarding the Jinks article, I included no link to indicate that I had done anything with the "Jinks" page. However, the moment I changed the hyperlink on my User page to show a link to the new page (after several months), he went back and redirected it away from there towards something else that was completely insignificant.

His actions are petty and childish.

It's become personal for me and I think he's abusing his privileges as an administrator to grind his personal axe with me.

I don't like the idea of him stalking my user page to see what changes I'm making. Please keep him the hell away from me.

Who's involved?

Mister Jinxy and Cyberjunkie

What's going on?

Cyberjunkie is basically stalking me.

What would you like to change about that?

I'd like to get him to mind his own business and quit being so arrogant. Every time I try to act civilly towards him and ask him what he ultimately wants, he replies with something flip. I've tried talking to him but everytime he writes something it is condescending and patronizing.

I don't think there's a solution between me and him except for him to have nothing to do with me ever again. At least, I don't want anything to do with him and have told him so repeatedly.

Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?

My talk page is fine. I really don't care if he sees this. I want him to basically never have anything to do with me again. There are plenty of other admins out there.

[edit] Mediator response

Hello, I'm willing to be your mediator if you will both accept me, but for this process to work, we are going to have to have some dialog, and focus on the facts of the matter. From what I see it is simply Cyberjunkie undoing Mister Jinxy's edits. I think the best way to start on this will be to have both of you state why you did your actions. Please mind WP:CIVIL, and try to keep everything to the facts. I also ask that we all keep an open mind as to possible solutions. Cheers! —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 21:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Please state if you are willing to attempt to talk this out below. Thanks. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 21:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm willing to, though it seems as though Cyberjunkie has decided to finally honor my request that he leave me alone. We were exchanging e-mails for a while and he has not responded to my last e-mail request which explicitly told him to cease all future contact with me.

That's great that he's stopped, but I still foresee a situation in the future in which he'll continue to meddle in my edits.

So at this point, I don't know whether engaging in dialog with him is really what I want. It seems as if the best solution is for the two of us to avoid each other, though this is difficult when he maintains a watch list on certain of the pages I work on and goes about redirecting my efforts towards pages with inferior product.

This is somewhat of a long-running (3-6 months) dispute that originated over something completely different. I came to his attention based upon the complaint of another user. In that particular case, I admit that I was wrong. I did not understand all of the rules of behavior and acted inappropriately according to Wikipedia standards. However, it was Cyberjunkie's smug and patronizing attitude in dealing with the situation that was especially odious. As I did not care for the arrogant and condescending tone he took towards me regarding that matter, I told him so. He continued to badger me and lecture me on "civility", while acting in an offensively "incivil" manner. After realizing the futility of further communication, I asked him repeatedly to stay away from me and my contributions. However, he apparently enjoys using his admin power and never misses an opportunity to undo any work I have done regarding either "Jinx", "Jinxy", "Jinks", or "Mr. Jinx".

In our e-mails, he has accused me of "playing games" but refuses to tell me exactly what I must do to get him to leave my edits alone. I find his comments about "games" laughable considering that he has my user page on his watch list and checks it to see what contributions I have made and what edits I might have made to any of the above listed articles. He has even gone so far as to read up on me via my blog, which is linked to my user page. I know this through my stat counter data.

Sounds to me like someone (an administrator at that) has decided to hide under the cloak of his authority and make things personal. At this point, I'd just prefer that he leave me and my edits alone. But until I can be assured that he does that, I am willing to engage in whatever type of arbitration process that exists to deal with these types of matters.

Administrators should have a great deal of power, but they must also be responsible with it and not abuse it to grind a personal axe against someone simply because they don't like them. Even when the feeling is mutual.

Mister Jinxy 01:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I guess I need to ask, do you want to have a mediation with Cyberjunkie? What is the issue (that you two disagree over, that started this)? Thanks. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 19:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

The issue is that Cyberjunkie needs to stay away from me and my edits. If he can do that without mediation, so be it. However, I don't think he's exactly shown a willingness to work with anybody by his failure to even address this issue after you requested that he do so. Comments like the ones he made below simply highlight the arrogance and high-handedness to which I early referred:

'"I'll respond to the accusations in due course, but I don't foresee submitting myself to a process in which I have little confidence."

Mister Jinxy 23:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Compromise offers

[edit] Discussion