Talk:Medieval Inquisition
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I have substantially modified the article as I felt the earlier version was too apologetic in tone. While the myth of the inquisition should debunked, the truth was not exactly a bed of roses either. In particular, the church knew perfectly well that handing over to secular authorites meant death.
I still think this article makes the Church to look like the good guys here! 164.143.244.34 14:22, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Isn't "heresy" a pretty POV word? - Omegatron 20:36, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] "Roman Inquisition"
This is the more familiar title to me. Is "medieval inquisition" less pejorative, POV or judgmental? It certainly makes it sound like a generalized populist movement: medieval dance, medieval art, medieval inquisition... Does "Roman" suggest that the Papacy was responsible or something? My curiosity is partly subversive as usual: when names are shifted, there's often a revealing story... --Wetman 19:53, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Roman Inquisition was 16th century.. the medieval inqusition describes the papal and episcopal inquisitions, which were decentralized and not run from Rome. "Authority rested with local officials based on guidelines from the Pope, but there was no central top-down authority running the inquisitions, as would be the case in post-medieval inquisitions." --Stbalbach 20:29, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Gnostic heresies
Regarding this text, removed from article to here for discussion:
- The suppression of gnostic heresies despising the material world had profound impact on future development of the European civilization. The Catholic doctrine encouraging studies of the material world as a creation of God has prevailed. Without this, the development of modern science in Europe would be inconceivable.
It is original research to conclude that it was because of Catholic doctrine led to the creation of modern science. Two, it is hypothetical to suggest that science would not have developed without Catholicism.. and even more hypothetical to suggest that without the Inqusition, science would never have developed. Finally the Cathars were not a Christian sect, they did not represent a threat to Catholicism, any more than Islam or Hindu or any another religion. --Stbalbach 22:19, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ad abolendam
The present translation, "For the purpose of doing away with," looks rather over engineered. The preposition "Ad" means "to". The etymology of "abolendam" leads to "abolish". Why not "To Abolish" or simply "Abolition"?
[edit] Why not French and Italian Inquisition?
Look at the Spanish Inquisition article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.39.214.81 (talk) 04:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Reasons for the Inquisition
I have read that there were two major reasons for the Medieval Inquisition. The first being that Catharism was considered a great threat to society at the time, the second being that due to the first reason, many Christians were taking the law into their own hands and killing possible heretics without any form of trial. Should this information be included in the article? Karsaroth 04:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Torture not all that common
I removed the following passage:
It was a common part of the medieval judicial system and not particular to the inquisition. The torture methods used by inquisitors were mild compared to secular courts [...]
This is incorrect. Medieval justice before the inquisition was based mostly on the principle of accusatio, which works the way civil lawsuits still work: Someone accuses someone else, and then has to prove it. At the time, this prove was usually provided by witnesses. Confessions were of little importance, and the court acted as an arbitrator and had no interest in proving the guilt of the accused.
Torture is typically a part of the inquisitio principle of justice, with the high importance it places on confessions. This principle has its roots in Roman law, and was re-introduced to Europe mainly through the inquisition.—Graf Bobby 01:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
