Talk:Media Transfer Protocol
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The recently added text looks like it was copied in from some source, a source which should be verified as being compliant with the GFDL I will consider reverting these addition unless the anonymous submitter stands up. Nixdorf 11:31, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Main Purpose of MTP?
The General section claims that: The main purpose of the protocol is to transfer media files. However, if that were the case, then surely UMS would simply have been adopted. Can we not therefore conclude that the main purpose of MTP is to enforce DRM? -- Ralphbk 08:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
No, this is not the main purpose behind the protocol. Moreover, the MTP Basic component of the protocol does not use DRM at all, and this is the component that is up for standardization. --Meiqur 07:45, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
While DRM support is a part of Microsoft's implementation, I believe the syncronization, automatic transcoding and syncronization are very compelling features. What worries me is that while you can turn off MTP and revert to a UMS mode on my Sansa player, nothing uploaded in MTP mode is even present in the UMS filesystem. But this just may be a fluke of my particular implementation. http://www.directionsonmicrosoft.com/sample/DOMIS/update/2004/10oct/1004mpumsf_sb.htm 68.226.79.69 17:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I would argue that this is another monopolistic attempt on Microsoft's part due to the fact that the only OS that really has decent MTP support right now is Windows. Why else would they completly cut out support for MSC (aka UMS) mode with Plays For Sure II? Currently Sandisk is updating the firmware on some of their MP3 players so that they will no longer have a selectable MSC mode as part of the compliance with Microsoft.23:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.184.247.53 (talk)
[edit] Yes, Main purpose is DRM
and I think someone should write about this in the wiki itself. I am no authority on DRM but but it seems to me that MTP will do nothing but make it difficult to copy my music from digital music player to hd etc.. It will also make carrying software, other than music, on these devices. Why? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.108.4.144 (talk) 10:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] No, it is not
No, it is absolutely possible to make MTP devices with no DRM at all. The main points about MTP are listed on the page. Do not confuse MTP with Janus, these are two separate things, even though they often appear together. Nixdorf 20:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, so it is possible — but did any manufacturer actually do it? If so, how did they think that helped their end users? Because I am sitting here with a MTP:ed iriver T30, and I cannot see how this is better than USB mass storage. I (my kid brother, really) expected this player to act like a normal USB memory, i.e. be usable with any modern computer, with no unreasonable OS requirements and no weird software to install first. JöG 21:23, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
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- Exactly how I felt when first hooking up my Samsung YP-K3. I don't use WMP, wasn't interested in WMP10, but eventually was forced to install it. Copying files to it is kind of hit and miss, slow, and difficult to determine how much data in actually on the thing.
- @JöG: You and your kid brother might find the iriver firmware updater useful. Ralphbk 06:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
He's right, a very large percentage of XP computers do not have support for MTP mode due to MS stupidly bundling it with WMP10 which a lot of people don't bother to install. Additionally many times MTP drivers can have issues even with WMP10 installed. 23:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] MTPSync
This program is not compiling well with the instuctions given by the author. After compiling like it should be it does *not* work well. It does all kind of strange things but not the right thing. This definitly is alpha code. I am writing about working with it with the Samsung YP-U3. Should this link stay on this page? Is it not better to remove it here and move it to a programmers wiki? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.220.236.161 (talk) 12:34, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
