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[edit] Question

Might these guys be considered one of the Pre-Punk Bands? Sjfloat 20:12 23 May 2003 (UTC)

Maybe Pre-Punk but absolutely not punk that's to early. Ericd 20:27 23 May 2003 (UTC)

I would agree, but I suppose it's subjective. Should the article be corrected then? Sjfloat 20:32 23 May 2003 (UTC)

I changed "a great deal of controversy" to "some controversy," simply because I thought that was more appropriate. I heard "Kick Out the Jams" on the radio at the time, in a version engineered to obscure the profanity. Lou Christie's schmaltzy "Rhapsody in the Rain" created more controversy. If I've forgotten some major episode of denial of airplay or something like that feel free to revert. Trontonian 03:38, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)

The link to the sample is broken. Also, might it be worth mention their performance at the protests about the Democratic convention in 1968 and the ensuing violence? Also, you could mention their relationship with The Stooges

I'm commenting out the reference to Zenta new year in the following sentence because it makes no sense to me as a reader:

Their first album was Kick Out The Jams, recorded live on October 30 and 31, 1968 (the first Zenta new year). --Tony Sidaway|Talk 03:15, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] history?

this article doesn't even mention the bands' history. answers.com has a great article on them.-Joeyramoney 21:13, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Communist ideology

In the article punk ideology, The MC5 are listed as "socialist/communist." If this is so, it is worthy of note in this article, as well. Wikikrieg 18:18, 29 March 2006

[edit] Drug Use

The band members were also all using the drugs -- initially LSD and marijuana -- that would eventually contribute to their downfall.

I don't understand how 'drug use' could be credibly attributed to their 'downfall'. It's all really a matter of opinion, but couldn't their downfall be attributed to disagreements in opinion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oshuma (talk • contribs) 01:58, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Influence section

Talks exclusively about covers. Until material about the MC5's influence is added, this section shouldn't be called "Influence" but instead "Covers". To say that an act covered someone's music is to say nothing substantial at all about influence. 68.122.6.56 01:15, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chicago 1968 / {{verify source}}

I added a {{verify source}} tag to the paragraph about the DNC/Festival of Life in Chicago 1968 for a couple of reasons. First, the MC5 were the only band to perform, but a fair number of individual performers, such as Phil Ochs, showed up and played. I am skeptical that the MC5 played for more than 8 hours. Also, I have never read that Neil Young was in Chicago at all. — Malik Shabazz | Talk 08:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

The claim that the MC5 played for 8 hours is suspect: Don McLeese author of the book that is in the References section, The MC5's Kick Out the Jams, was at the Festival of Life in Chicago and saw the MC5 performance; he says they played for about half an hour. Dblobaum (talk) 14:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Is it not possible they played more than one set? But controversial unsourced statements should def be removed. Wwwhatsup (talk) 17:34, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assessed as Start class

I just assessed the article as start-class. But it's a good start, and I think it could be upgraded to B-class without a whole lot of work. The main thing it needs is references/citations. Remember, one of the keystones of Wikipedia is verifiability. Policy says, "Articles should contain only material that has been published by reliable sources" and "Editors adding new material should cite a reliable source, or it may be challenged or removed by any editor". Verifiability is more important than truth on this site! cheers, Xtifr _tälk 04:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genre(s)

Adding Hard Rock to it, considering most of their albums have hard rock listed on them.

[edit] thompson?

Am I having a weird trip or the drummer link is... weird? ;) --82.207.33.223 03:11, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

haha, from a drummer too! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petchboo (talk • contribs) 02:20, 15 March 2008 (UTC)