Talk:Maurice Gibb
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Some media reports (heard in Wellingon, New Zealand) indicated that he suffered the heart attack while under observation for the pain resulting from the blockage, and that the surgery then necessarily took place during the post heart attack shock. Is this correct?
According to the article Isle of Man, that island is not part of the United Kingdom.
S. That's right. If you go to their govt website at http://www.gov.im/ and select "Background", it's about the first thing you see! I've removed UK from the article. Nevilley 11:30 Jan 22, 2003 (UTC)
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[edit] trouble with police of other brothers before 1958?
In 1958 when they moved to Australia, Barry was 12 and Robin and Maurice were 9 - is it accurate that Robin and Barry had been in trouble with the police in England at such young ages? I couldn't find any citation other than those picking up the Wiki reference. Tvoz 01:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
JoeBrennan 02:21, 13 May 2007 (UTC) Ages still 11 and 8 at the time of the move, and yes, true. See the Ultimate Biography by Bilyeu, Cook, Mon Hughes ("with" me and Mark Crohan). However Maurice was identified as the least involved.
[edit] Where did the Gibb family live in Australia?
The Bee Gees article says Redcliffe but Maurice's article says Cribb Island. Or was it both? Doesn't bother me particularly but am asking as a wiki quality issue.--Grinning Idiot 13:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
JoeBrennan They lived at many addresses in Australia, including Cribb Island.
[edit] Anecdote regarding MG's "stabilising influence"
The article contains this:
His reputation as a mild-mannered stabilising influence continued into later life. When the Bee Gees walked out of their interview with British chat show host Clive Anderson, Maurice was last to leave, with the words "Well I'd love to, but I don't do impressions." [citation needed]
More than a citation is needed; I have no idea what this text means.
When did the Bee Gees walk out of their interview (I know: in "later life")? Why did they do it? Were they angry? Insulted? Was the interview merely finished? What happened? (I know that "walked out on" is a British-type expression meaning "went out with" or "dated" to us USians, so is this just some misunderstanding of "walk out of" on my part?)
And why did Maurice say "Well I'd love to, but I don't do impressions?" Sounds like an answer. What was the question? To what was he replying?
Finally, how does this anecdote illustrate Maurice's stabilising influence? Especially if he was walking out in anger.
Thanks to anybody who can clarify this bit. - John Hosking 83.77.168.179 07:55, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
- As I understand it, the brothers took offence at something said by Clive during the interview, and walked out of the studio in mid-broadcast. Clive apologized and urged them to stay, to which Maurice replied with the comment about 'doing impressions' (ie. of his absent brothers.) Drutt 15:08, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
JoeBrennan 02:21, 13 May 2007 (UTC) This paragraph is two revisions run together, and I was the second one working here. As the Clive Anderson show (1997) fades into memory it needs no mention at all on this page. It illustrates more about Barry than it does about Maurice. I will remove it.
[edit] "Man in the Middle"
JoeBrennan 02:21, 13 May 2007 (UTC) I removed a statement that Barry and Robin recorded "Man in the Middle" in his honor. In fact Maurice recorded that song without Barry and Robin for the last Bee Gees album.
204.156.112.31 (talk) 21:05, 18 December 2007 (UTC)== Discrepancies in reports on the cause of his death - moved from user talk:RationalLady ==
June 2, 2007---Maurice Gibb/personal info---deleted the reference to cardiac arrest, because other people editing don't understand that the complications of the twisted intestine *included* cardiac arrest, but he did not die when the arrest occurred. The cardiac arrest occurred two days before his actual death, before surgery occurred.—Preceding unsigned comment added by RationalLady (talk • contribs)
August 17, 2007---Maurice Gibb/personal info---Please do not edit the cause of death on this man. He did NOT have a heart attack---he suffered cardiac arrest (stoppage of the heart) BEFORE he had surgery on the twisted intestine. He lived for two days after that.—Preceding unsigned comment added by RationalLady (talk • contribs)
August 18, 2007---Maurice Gibb/personal info---Edited this again to remove inaccurate references. The Scotsman articles are inaccurate. As stated, he did not suffer a heart attack, but cardiac arrest, which did NOT cause his death. Also, the "family" did not settle....only Yvonne Gibb. His brothers did not want to settle. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RationalLady (talk • contribs) 04:01:09, August 19, 2007 (UTC).</small
- This discussion more appropriately belongs on Talk:Maurice Gibb where other editors will be looking, not on your talk page (I didn't know to look here the last time you mentioned the talk page which is why I said nothing was on talk). The language I used to describe what led to his death was taken from several news articles, and referenced as such. Your assertion above was not referenced, and appears to be your own opinion - if not, please provide references in the article. I will clarify what I wrote, based on the news reports I have that are contemporaneous with his death, and updated by a report a year later, and I plan to reinstate it. If you have references that contradict what I have, perhaps you should add that other reports gave other causes, say what they are, and reference that. Just saying that the Scotsman articles are inaccurate doesn't really satisfy - how do you know that your opinion is more correct? Sources, please - there's no reason we can't have a short summary of the discrepancies in reporting the cause of his death included, but they have to be referenced. Tvoz |talk 04:16, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Whether it belonged in my talk or Maurice's page, the matter has recently become irrelevant due to edits changing it to simply "due to complications of a twisted intestine", which is fine and true. For the record, my sources are the Gibb family. RationalLady (talk) 23:10, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Those I am sure are accurate, but by Wikipedia standards would not be considered "reliable sources" (see WP:RS - the required standard here, for better or worse, is not truth, but verifiability. So you or I might know that something is correct from our own personal observation or experience or by something someone close to a situation told us, but none of that qualifies on Wikipedia as a reliable source. Tvoz |talk 04:07, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
So, in order to keep Wikipedia "accurate", it's better to use articles that can be "sourced", with totally false information, instead of information that is absolutely accurate? I guess that speaks highly for Wikipedia's accuracy and standards. In other words, this place becomes useless when inaccurate, sourced information is better than accurate information that doesn't have the weight of the New York Times behind it. Ridiculous. 204.156.112.31 (talk) 21:05, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] flagcruft
As per WP:FLAG, specifically here, it is recommended that flag icons not be used with birth and death dates, because they imply nationality which may or may not be accurate. Please read the links I'm providing, and leave off the flags - they really don't add anything other than potential confusion. Thanks. Tvoz |talk 06:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
