User:Mattisse/other9

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-- Please do not post Redthoreaus's name on my page again. -- Readhoreau has stated that he reserves the right to continue to hassle me every time his name is posted on my page. I am begging you to cease mentioning him on my page. You are the only person who does. This has become harassment. It if continues, I will close my page to all messages and delete without reading anything that are posted there. PLease, –Mattisse (Talk) 21:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

You mentioned my name as an attack, which is why I responded Let's review:

I'm sure, to stand up to Redthoreau. No one has so far, so I don't expect any change. In fact I expect an ugly post from him to appear right under this one. –Mattisse (Talk) 00:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

= Mattisse accept personal responsibility for your actions and stop impugning Coppertwig, who has only dealt fairly and politely with you. I don't know how else to make this extremely clear: "If you post an accusation against me on your talk page, on another page, on a forum, anywhere I know of on the internet" ... = I WILL respond and answer my accuser. If you wish to be left alone, then desist from casting aspersions.       Redthoreau (talk TR 21:29, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Mattisse, I will try to remember to do as you ask, unless I have a strong reason not to. When I said "Congratulations", I was congratulating you for getting a barnstar, a DYK and an invitation to join a wikiproject. :-) Congratulations on mostly remaining civil through the stress of the last day or so, and for posting good comments about content without commenting about editors at all at Talk:The Motorcycle Diaries#My objections to para one; however, it would be better to revert with no comment (which is also frowned on) than to refer to a longstanding editor's edit as "vandalism". Redthoreau is right that this remark about an "ugly post" was not nice. It's OK to defend yourself by saying things like "that was an attack", but please don't say uncivil things yourself. AGF: Redthoreau can be easy to get along with if you treat the user nicely. --Coppertwig (talk) 23:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Redthoreau, I think everything would go much more smoothly if you would start treating Mattisse with consistent civility, respect and gentleness, regardless of whether you believe it's deserved.
Even if you believe someone is acting in bad faith, there is rarely or never any reason to say so explicitly, as you did here. Try to think about how things will look to other observers who may not interpret the evidence as you do. See WP:Assume good faith#Dealing with bad faith, its subsection WP:Assume good faith#Accusing others of bad faith and GTBacchus' comments at Wikipedia talk:Assume good faith, such as this one. Also, re using "vandalism" in an edit summary, please don't try to use another person's behaviour as an excuse for your own behaviour. I would really appreciate it if you would instead constantly look for ways to de-escalate or at least not continue that sort of conflict. I'd rather spend my time reformatting footnotes than responding to these sorts of things. --Coppertwig (talk) 23:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


Congratulations on mostly remaining civil through the stress of the last day or so, and for posting good comments about content without commenting about editors at all at Talk:The Motorcycle Diaries#My objections to para one; however, it would be better to revert with no comment (which is also frowned on) than to refer to a longstanding editor's edit as "vandalism". Redthoreau is right that this remark about an "ugly post" was not nice. It's OK to defend yourself by saying things like "that was an attack", but please don't say uncivil things yourself. AGF: Redthoreau can be easy to get along with if you treat the user nicely.