Talk:Masters and Johnson

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[edit] Wikipedia's Article on Orgasm

User:Nectarflowed contribution "The researchers stated that the fact that it is heritable suggests that evolution has a role. They suggested this difficulty in achieving orgasm might have evolved because it helped females select males who were the most powerful and thoughtful, who would be the most likely to hang around as a long-term partner and be a better bet for bringing up offspring" strongly resembles that of a theory found in one of several college level textbooks written by Masters & Johnson -- especially the topic of "psychology of marriage". In summary, the idea goes as this: a female will choose her mate (i.e. future husband) by measuring up a few things such as his earning potential and his ability to support both her and her future offspring(s). The point is, I am wondering if the Masters & Johnson's research on the topic of marriage has been convulated with personal opinions on orgasm?

The idea that women select mates partly based on their resources and their likelihood of making a long-term contribution is very widespread in evolutionary psychology. A number of researchers have suggested that female orgasm may be adapted for assessing a mate's devotion. I know that Geoffrey Miller has said this, though I don't have references in front of me. Inhumandecency 19:53, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


I'm curious why this article doesn't touch on Masters & Johnsons work in curing homosexuals. They reported a 65% success rate (as measured five years after treatment) at helping these men. - O^O
The fact that they were able to modify perceived sexual orientation to a large extent, and how that was perceived by those involved, is notable (if so) since it would be factual. The opinioning of it as "curing" people and "helping" them is not useful, insofar as it conveys a point of view about homosexuality (that it is something needing a "cure" and "help") which many would strongly dispute. Just to clarify an important distinction. FT2 (Talk | email) 04:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Point taken that my comment in the talk space was not phrased in a NPOV way, as a contribution to article space would need to be. I remain curious if this research and publication should be worked into the article. Obviously, since this is a wiki, I can do it myself. I guess my real curiousity is as to whether this has already been hashed out, and it doesn't look like it has been. - O^O

[edit] October 27, 2007 edits

Changed citations from external links to cite journal where appropriate. Removed link to http://www.newdirection.ca/ as it no longer exists. I would replace it with a proper citation to their research, but I'm not conversant, so I put a reference to one of their books and sort of hoped for the best. I removed link to the 1973 APA statement on homosexuality as it is irrelevant to the subject at hand, though I did replace it with a wikilink to Homosexuality and psychology#Declassification. JFlav 01:44, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 02:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)