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[edit] Early conference

I had originally written that Maryland was in the "South Atlantic Intercollegiate Athletic Association" from 1918 to 1921, which later became part of the Southern Conference. This was edited to say "Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association". My original source was the official Terrapins supporter club the Gridiron Network. I did a little google searching, and found many sources saying that Maryland, as well as Virginia Tech, Virginia, NC State, etc. were part of the "South Atlantic Intercollegiate Athletic Association", not "Southern"...

Here's another source quoting VT as in the SAIA: "The Hokies would play in the South Atlantic Intercollegiate Athletic Association from 1907 to 1921, and would eventually play in the Southern Conference of the NCAA Division I-A football from 1922 to 1964, winning the conference title in the 1963 season, recording a record of 8 wins, and 2 losses."

Then the Southern Conference official site calls it the Southern IAA... But that may be biased towards the term Southern versus South Atlantic...?

I wonder if it was orginially called the South Atlantic IAA, and later changed to Southern, or what? It seems odd that several sources, including the official Maryland one, would quote it is as being called the SAIAA.

Can anyone provide a more definitive source/answer either way?

Since I consider the official Maryland site a more definitive source for their history than the SoCon, I am changing that part back. If someone can provide a more definitive reference to the contrary, please do.

Whatever it was called, I have a source stating that Maryland was in it from 1918 until 1921, so I'm changing that part back as well.

Strikehold (talk) 03:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I think I may have it... This is just speculation but, according to the SoCon source, the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association consisted of 30 members. My assumption is that there may have been some sub-conference level group called South Atlantic, composed of (future ACC) teams like UMD, UVA, VT, NCSU, etc... If anyone could confirm this it would be appreciated.Strikehold (talk) 03:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
  • I started to wonder whether there truly ever was a "South Atlantic Intercollegiate Athletic Association". If you google there are very few reference to it and they all appear to trace back to something that was likely cut and pasted or blatantly lifted from Wikipedia articles on the schools we both noticed, VT, Virginia, etc., I did find a New York Times article that backed the SIAA belief. I noticed the Maryland website timeline, but I have to question it's accuracy.(Who knows which athletic dept. intern was given the duty?) It's very possible, given the title of the NYT headline, that the SIAA went by a shortened name and that the official name, as provided in the body of the article, included "Southern". http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D00E7D9103FE432A25751C1A9649D946195D6CF or http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9D00E7D9103FE432A25751C1A9649D946195D6CF Mdlawmba (talk) 06:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
ETA: I changed the SIAA article to reflect the information in the NYT article. It was interesting to see the reason why they actually split: Maryland, along with the other schools, wanted a ban on freshman athletes and wanted to prohibit players from playing professional baseball in the summer. Mdlawmba (talk) 07:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Interesting... I noticed the same thing when searching google on both instances; it's ironic that Wikipedia is such a popular source, that it's actually difficult to independently verify with first-source information on the internet. Anyway, regarding SIAA/SAIAA, you've convinced me. I went ahead and changed it back to SIAA. Thanks for your help. Strikehold (talk) 08:33, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Depth chart

I have a couple issues with the depth chart of 'projected starters' that was added.. Firstly, it's in an odd place in the article, between current NFL players and notable former players. Secondly, what is the source for this information? Nothing official has yet been released from the school, and the "projected" part gives me the impression it's original research. And lastly, if it is attributable and not original research, then since it is relevant to the '08 squad, it would probably be more appropriately place in the 2008 Maryland Terrapins football team article.