Talk:Marvin Hagler
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"Hagler needed some gubernatorial help, but Arum pulled the strings, and finally, in November 1979, Hagler was in the ring with a world Middleweight champion."
I have no idea what the first part of this sentence means. "Gubernatorial help?" Hagler needed a governor to get him a title shot? What sort of "strings" did Arum pull? And, to nitpick, Antuofermo was the only world middleweight champ at the time, not "a" middleweight champ. MKil 13:36, 21 April 2006 (UTC)MKil
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(what was the controversy?) Question posted on the article by an editor...
Answer: The controversy about the first Hagler-Antuofermo bout was that most ringsiders and fight observers thought Hagler had deserved to win running away. This is a topic of discussion in boxing circles that still goes on to this day. The fact Hagler had it so difficult to get a title shot in the first place widened the controversy.The book The Ring: Boxing in the 20th Century made a mockery out of the official draw decision by saying that Antuofermo's mother fainted during the bout, and Hagler fainted after the bout, when the decision was announced. (Hagler didn't faint, this was written only as a funny way of describing his dismay over a decision he obviously thought he'd earned widely).
It was a horrible decision. All three fights Hagler lost in his career were controversial decisions, and many people still say Hagler was undefeated everywhere but on the scorecards.
Even Antuofermo today admits that Hagler beat him. In fact, the two are friends, and Vito helped Hagler break into acting in Italy after his retirement.
The IMDB movie data bank says, Marvin is capverdian, and speaks fluent portuguese - what about that?? 213.102.98.181 08:21, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Legal Name Change
In the early 1980s Hagler legally changed his name to "Marvelous Marvin Hagler". There are court records and deeds filed in Plymouth County, Massachusetts which prove this. Should this article be retitled "Marvelous Marvin Hagler" and should his bio be changed to reflect that Marvelous was his first name, not his nick-name? 151.203.29.117 14:08, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Marvelous Marvin Hagler automatically redirects to Marvin Hagler, plus he is known universally as Marvin Hagler, so in a nutshell, no. Maya Levy 00:17, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
I've changed it to be more in line with the entries for Cassius Clay and Lew Alcindor. Most of Hagler's notable fights were after his legal name change. There is no reason to treat the entires for Hagler differently than Ali or Jabbar's.151.203.204.133 (talk) 20:45, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes he legally changed his name, but the Muhammad Ali infobox still gives his original name as Cassius Marcellus Clay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.132.221 (talk) 21:08, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Official Website
http://www.marvelousmarvin.com/
[edit] Removed crap, and spotted a contradiction
I removed this paragraph:
During the match, Hagler famously and repeatedly (and rightly) said to Leonard "come here annd fight you little bitch" as he chased him around the ring. However, most boxing commentators do not blame Leonard for his careful approach as Hagler could barely be classified as a human being (he literally ate up Tommy Hearns' right hands like he was Pac Man).
It's not in keeping with the Wikipedia style, and reads more like a bad forum posting than part of an encyclopedic article. As far as I know, Hearns still has his right hand, and Hagler certainly didn't 'literally' eat it.
Also, there's a contradiction in there. Early in the article it mentions Hagler getting knocked down, yet at the end it says he was never knocked down. Which is it? I can't edit this myself as I don't know... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.201.12.112 (talk) 15:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
